Daily Bible Verse

Discussion in 'Religion and Spirituality' started by studentofthemarkets, Jul 17, 2022.

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  1. I just don't even know what to say.

    It's a messed up world, for sure!

    I don't think the Bishop or the robbers are examples of actual meaning of Proverbs 10:22.
     
    #181     Jul 26, 2022
  2. themickey

    themickey

    The point I was trying to make, why would God the last 2000 years soley rely on the bible and humans to represent him?
    A multinational company seeks to employ the very best to be ambassadors to represent the company, why would God use fallen mankind to get his message out there.
    Humans don't trust humans, unless naive or dumb, why should I trust the bs artist preachers?
    Which preacher is right, which is wrong? All they have to offer is rhetoric.
    It's not like the church has a squeaky clean reputation.
     
    #182     Jul 27, 2022
  3. 07-24-2022 I hate every false way.png
     
    #183     Jul 27, 2022
  4. themickey

    themickey

    All these verses are gibberish.
    Jim Jones cult would have been quoting these words, they are but self promotion.
     
    #184     Jul 27, 2022
  5. themickey

    themickey

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    #185     Jul 27, 2022
  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    Hey, even God disagrees with it! Here's proof!

     
    #186     Jul 27, 2022
  7. There are a lot of reasons. Here are a few:

    1. From my understanding of Scripture, I don't see that God feels an obligation to save anyone, meaning that it's not a right that we have to think that God should be merciful to any one of us, because from God's point of view, and He will have the last say, we have all become corrupt and gone our own way and rebelled against Him, and He is letting people reject Him, although at the cost of living in eternity without Him and under His wrath.

    In light of that, then the point you are trying to make, which is basically why isn't God doing a better job of revealing Himself, needs to be understood in light of God's desire. Obviously, since He created the universe then it would not be difficult at all for Him to reveal Himself and make sure nobody was confused as to what to believe.

    2. It boils down to this (the second reason): God chose to write the Bible to reveal the truths He wanted us to know. It is serving His purposes.

    3. I can speculate and say maybe it's because He knows that the issue isn't the evidence. He knows what is in everyone's heart and He sees that people reject Him not for lack of evidence, but because people want to do their own thing, be their own boss, make their own rules and not submit to their Creator. Now, some cults say they are submitting to God and yet their "submission" is far different than what God has commanded in the Bible.

    4. The Holy Spirit is the One who seeks out people, to see if anyone will respond to what they do know of God. The lack of "evidence" or miraculous messengers or whatever it is that you are trying to imagine that God should have done instead, is not at all hindering God's working. God is accomplishing His plan to bring people to Himself and save them through Jesus. So, reason number 4 is that it isn't just the Bible or just Christians or just the nation of Israel or just the design of creation that are God's method, but He also works through His Spirit trying to draw people to Himself.

    the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth, for the Father is seeking such as these to worship Him...
    John 4:23 BSB​


    5. There is a spiritual battle going on between the forces of Satan and God and His messengers. The battle is real and the eternities of people are at stake. The issue is over the human will. Does one WANT and WILL to belong to God or to go their own path? To desire to belong to God must lead one to accepting the truths He has revealed about Himself to us. It's not really repentance if we are still choosing to worship the imaginations of our heart rather than submitting to God's revelation. He is revealed as our Creator, the Almighty, the Savior. Because it is an issue of the heart, it makes sense to me that God would use those who were once in the same boat as the others, living apart from God, to be the ones to share that they have experienced God themselves, and have come to see their sin against Him and come to know that He gives a full pardon to those who trust His Son, recognizing the Son as fully God who took on humanity so that He could represent us on the cross as He hung there, in pain, and took the wrath of God against our sin.

    He made Christ who knew no sin to [judicially] be sin on our behalf, so that in Him we would become the righteousness of God [that is, we would be made acceptable to Him and placed in a right relationship with Him by His gracious lovingkindness].
    2 Corinthians 5:21 Amplified Bible​

    I'm sure there are more reasons, but I'll stop here. :D
     
    #187     Jul 27, 2022
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  8. I think I just had an epiphany. :D

    "Nothing" does not exist and has never existed.

    Conceptually, there are different definitions of nothing, such as:

    1. There's "nothing" in my bank account.
    2. There's "nothing" in outer space.

    Yet even within the mathematical concept of nothing, there are still laws to define it, and there is still the time element, so "nothing," even mathematically, is not really and truly "nothing."

    Before the "Big Bang" of creation, there was God, who most obviously is not "nothing" and fills everything.

    Within the empty places of the universe, there is light from the stars, so there really isn't a place of "nothing" and I wouldn't call a black hole nothing either.

    I have sometimes pictured "nothing" as an empty part of outer space, or maybe what exists just beyond our expanding universe, but these cannot be places of "nothing" either because God fills all that is and there is nothing that exists apart from His creation.

    Wait, that would mean there is nothing....so nothing isn't the absence of anything, nothing is what doesn't exist because God didn't create it! So I have added to my definition while writing this out.

    I'm sure many people, maybe even most people, have developed this line of thinking far beyond my simplified understanding of it. I've known that God exists everywhere, so I knew there was never "nothing" but I hadn't really defined it so specifically for myself.
     
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    #188     Jul 27, 2022
  9. Well said Student but on this point I have to correct you slightly. Nothing does exist and it is whenever Good1 writes something. :p All in good fun Good1 :D
     
    #189     Jul 27, 2022
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  10. Overnight

    Overnight


    Just because nothing cannot exist does not mean that God MUST exist.
     
    #190     Jul 27, 2022
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