DACA expires today - Good job Tards

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Mar 5, 2018.

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  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    This is just another mistake in Trump’s repertoire. The list is getting long.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Liberals can't have it both ways. You can't claim on one hand that Trump doesn't do anything, and then claim on the other his actions are a long list of mistakes.
     
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  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    Congress doesn’t do anything, Trump is a bumbling idiot. I hope this helps.
     
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    DACA's March 5 'deadline' marks only inaction
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/05/politics/daca-deadline-march-5-passing-immigration-courts/index.html

    It's been six months since President Donald Trump moved to end a program that protected young undocumented immigrants from deportation, and Washington seems to be no closer to a resolution on the day everything was supposed to be solved by.

    March 5 was originally conceived to be a deadline of sorts for action. When Trump ended the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program in September, he created a six-month delay to give Congress time to come up with a legislative version of the policy, which protected young undocumented immigrants who had come to the US as children.

    The Department of Homeland Security was going to renew two-year DACA permits that expired before March 5, and Monday was to be the day after which those permits began expiring for good.

    But multiple federal judges ruled that the justification the Trump administration was using to terminate the program was shaky at best -- and ordered DHS to resume renewing all existing DACA permits. And the Supreme Court declined the administration's unusual request to leapfrog the appellate courts and consider immediately whether to overrule those decisions.

    That court intervention effectively rendered the March 5 deadline meaningless -- and, paired with a dramatic failure on the Senate floor to pass a legislative fix, the wind has been mostly taken out of the sails of any potential compromise.

    Activists are still marking Monday with demonstrations and advocacy campaigns. Hundreds of DACA supporters were expected to descend on Washington to push for action.

    But the calls for a fix stand in contrast with the lack of momentum for any progress in Washington, with little likelihood of that changing in the near future. Congress has a few options lingering on the back burner, but none are showing signs of imminent movement.

    March 23 is the next government funding deadline, and some lawmakers have suggested they may try to use the must-pass package of funding bills as a point of leverage.

    But sources close to the process say it's more likely that efforts will be made to keep a bad deal out of the omnibus spending measure than to come up with a compromise to attach to it, as no solution has a clear path to passing either chamber and the House Republican leadership has opposed attaching any immigration matter to a spending deal.

    "I have a feeling that anything that goes with the omnibus is going to be a punt, so I'm not excited about that. That's not my goal," Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican who has been one of the loudest voices pushing for a DACA fix on the GOP side, told reporters last week.

    In the Senate, Jeff Flake, an Arizona Republican, and Heidi Heitkamp, a North Dakota Democrat, have introduced a bill that would give three-year extension to the DACA program along with three years of border security funding, though that legislation has yet to pick up any momentum and many lawmakers remain hesitant to give up on a more permanent fix.
    The Senate is also still feeling the residual effect of the failure of a bipartisan group to get 60 votes for a negotiated compromise bill, which suffered from a relentless opposition campaign from the administration. Trump's preferred bill failed to get even 40 votes, far fewer than the bipartisan group's.

    On the House side of the Capitol, a more conservative bill than even Trump's proposal has been taking up the focus. The legislation from Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, a Virginia Republican, and others contains a number of hardline positions and no pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients, and it fails to have enough Republican votes even to pass the House. It is considered dead on arrival in the Senate.

    But conservatives in the House, buoyed by the President's vocal support for the bill, have gotten leadership's commitment to whip the measure, and leadership has been complying for now. According to lawmakers and sources familiar, House Speaker Paul Ryan, a Wisconsin Republican, talked about the bill in a GOP conference meeting during the House's short workweek last week, and continued to discuss ways to get enough votes.

    Lawmakers estimate that at this point, the measure had somewhere between 150 and 170 votes in its favor, far fewer than the 218 it would need. But the bill's authors are working with leadership to see whether it can be changed enough to lock up more, even as moderates and Democrats remain skeptical it can get there.

    "The vote count is looking better every day," said Rep. Jim Jordan, a conservative Ohio Republican who has been a vocal advocate for the bill. "I think if leadership puts the full weight of leadership behind it, we can get there. ... The most recent report I've heard is whip count is getting better."

    Moderate Republicans, however, are holding out hope that the party can move on from that bill and seek something that could survive the Senate and become law.

    "Bring up the Goodlatte bill that went through Judiciary. If it does not have 218 votes, then let's go to the next one that makes sense for DACA," said Rep. Jeff Denham, a California Republican who has supported a compromise on DACA.

    In the meantime, most think DACA recipients will continue in limbo, especially with the courts ensuring that renewals can continue for now.

    "It's good news for people in the DACA program, because they can continue renewing their permits. I have mixed feelings on what it means for us here, because we know this institution sometimes only works as deadlines approach, and now there isn't a deadline," Curbelo said.
     
  6. Yeh, sure. No flexibility on his part. The lefties wanted legalization for 800,000 and trump said "screw you, I want to do 1.8 million even if half my base leaves me."
     

  7. The idiots are the blacks and Hispanics on the Dem Plantation that still follow their masters who only want them for their votes. Meanwhile, no settlement on immigration issues, and their children die of gunfire in places like Chicago and only half have jobs. You know, places that have gunfire everyday, not just a bigshoot up over in places that the whitey cares about and that the lefty media covers non-stop.
     
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    Trump also said there would be tariffs on steel and aluminum and Mexico would pay for the wall and he would make healthcare terrific and cheap.

    The point is Trump says a lot of things that aren’t true or don’t pan out.
     
  9. I see. So your reply to the Hispanics as to why they would not accept a deal offering 1.8 million rather than 800k is because "trump said there would be tariffs on steel and aluminum."

    Try taking that out on the campaign trail, which is what it is all about for you and your political hack ilks. The notion that you are a liberal would make a true liberal puke. You are just a DNC bootlicker.
     
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Totally degrading remarks. You insinuate Americans that are black and Hispanic live on a plantation as if they don’t know what is best for themselves and their families. You invoke these slavery references like they are no big deal.

    Let me ask you a question, Mr. Internet tough guy, when was the last time you told a black person they vote democrat because they are on a plantation and follow their master to their face?
     
    #10     Mar 5, 2018
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