Da Bears!

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Maverick74, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. #221     Jan 22, 2007
  2. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    #222     Jan 22, 2007
  3. No point really. Just looking back at your team.

    Hope I'm wrong but I expect this SB will be a disaster for Bears.

    I'm looking for Indy by 2 TDs and 2 FGs anyway and don't see the Bears scoring more than 10. So my call is the Under and Indy no matter what you'd have to give for points.

    Only hope is Bears secondary gets lucky with interceptions. Manning is coming out throwing downfield - the 20-50 yard passes one right after another.
     
    #223     Jan 22, 2007
  4. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Wow 87, you are getting emotional. Please don't do that. I've heard it all before. All I heard was how Drew Brees was going to pick the Bears apart. It was all over the Chicago media the entire week before the game. All I heard was how Reggie Bush would eat us alive. All I heard was how Deuce was going to run all over us. And you know what Mr. Boston? It never happened. The Saints got blown off the field. Duece was a no show. Reggie Bush had one big play And Drew Brees was contained.

    So keep talking about Peyton this and Peyton that and your phony sarcastic concern for the Bears. I personally think the Colts are a better team because of Manning. But I also thought Seattle was a better team then Pittsburg last year too and look what happened.

    Here are some things for you to chew on with the New England clam chowder. The Colts have one of the worst, one of the worst run defenses in the history of the NFL. Yes, they tightened up down the stretch but on the season they averaged giving up close to 5.5 yards per rush which is unheard of the in NFL.

    The Bears are going to run the ball down their throat. The Bears defense will blitz Manning like crazy and keep pressure on him. It won't be enough to stop him. But it could be enough to keep the Colts under 28 pts. The Bears can score. They can score by running the ball. They can score on defense. They can score on special teams.

    Lovie Smith will play a ball control offense and field position. The Bears are going to get at least 2 picks on Manning and possibly a few fumbles. If they get at least a +3 on the turnover ratio, Colts lose this game. Game over. It's as simple as that. If they don't, I think the Colts will win by a touchdown.

    You know 87, I thought you knew more about football then to just blurt a "Bears are going to get killed" analysis. I was wrong.
     
    #224     Jan 22, 2007
  5. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Let me add a few more tidbits. The Colts punt and kick coverage is god-awful. The pats ran by them like they weren't on the field. Devin Hester is going to have a field day everytime he returns a punt or kick. Also, the Colts were a .500 team on the road this year (4-4). Even their wins they barely scraped by. They did not beat anyone by more then 7 pts on the road. And three of their losses on their road were to Dallas, Houston and Tennessee. You take the Colts out of the Dome and suddenly they are just mediocre.

    The Bears on the other hand have been downright dominating on the road. Not just this year, but last year as well going 14-2 the last two seasons. If this game were played in Indy under the dome, it would be a different story. But that is not the case. The bottom line, the Colts are not nearly as good as you make them out to be. I kind of get the feeling that you are having negative reactions to the Pats losing and figure if they beat the Pats, then you might as well crown the Colts as Masters of the universe. LOL.
     
    #225     Jan 22, 2007
  6. Indy -- 2 TDs 2FGs and the defense scores is 27. How can anybody really say that's crazy? It's conservative.

    So to me the real question is what can Bears score? And that is a good argument you make Mav. You might like this guy's piece that somebody just sent me in an argument I'm having here about Bears offense potential --

    http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sports/2007/jan/22/566688598.html

    Still, I just dont see that O/U especially in a SB where they'll all be nervous nellies.
     
    #226     Jan 22, 2007
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Can you explain to me why you believe the Colts will have no problem scoring, yet the Bears you think will be lucky to get 10 pts? You do realize the Bears scored as many points during the regular season as the Colts (427)? You also realize that the Bears have scored 67 points in their last two playoff games compared to the Colts 59? Yet you completely discount these facts. And you do this in light of the Colts finishing dead last in run defense this year allowing an embarrassing 173 yards a game on the ground.

    Can you defend your argument a little better please and bring some numbers to the table other then gut feel. Thank you.
     
    #227     Jan 22, 2007
  8. Mav I bet pretty good size on the Bears each of the past two weeks. (Seattle of course was a non-cover). Unless I see some crazy sentiment on Indy (which I doubt is there but I'd fade it, if) I agree with 87 that the downside risk is Chicago's.

    The Aint's aren't the Colts. New Orleans was 10pts away from being a 7-9 team. And the NFC South will never confuse anyone with the brand of football being played throughout the AFC. (that's coming from an old school NFL fan who loathes the AFL/AFC). The Bears lost to Miami and New England and they were inoffensive against the Jets.

    IMO, Indy -7 is a bit cheap. Although Indy has shut down the run throughout the PO's I still give the Bears the edge defensively. Waringly though. If the Bears are reluctant to blitz, Manning will pick them apart. WTF cover's Reggie Wayne? Tillman better do better than last years Carolina/Steve Smith debacle. The QB situation is so mismatched that I believe Manning vs. Grossman is 6 points by itself. On a neutral field I give the AFC 4 points over as well. Special teams has been a Chicago forte' but Vinatieri is a clear edge. Maybe Hester breaks one for his homies in SoFla.....

    My hearts with the Bears but even on a 3-1 money line I don't see them as a solid play.

     
    #228     Jan 22, 2007
  9. I wonder where the NFL would be without so much gambling on the games. Maybe it would be as popular as hockey...
     
    #229     Jan 22, 2007
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Oh man, where do I begin here. OK, you want to compare performance, let's compare performance.

    The Colts beat the Giants by 5 who the Bears annihilated.

    The Colts squeaked by the Jets who the Bears beat a little better.

    They beat the Titans by 1 and then lost to them on the road.

    They beat Buffalo by 1 who the Bears killed.

    They got got lit up like a Christmas tree against Jacksonville.

    They lose to Houston on the road.

    And they squeak by Miami who the Bears lost to. The same Miami team that beat the Patriots.

    Come on Pabst, once again your argument lacks substance.

    The Colts had about as unimpressive a year as one can have and still go to the Superbowl. Let me remind you that the Colts almost didn't even win their division. They lost 4 of their last 7 games.

    You are going to need to do better then that Pabst. The bottom line is the Colts cannot play on the road. Look at Manning's numbers this year on his road games. Outside the dome they are ineffective.

    Pabst you seem to forget that I'm from St.Louis and we had a team there called the St. Louis Rams who to this day had the greatest offensive attack in the history of the NFL in 1999. They smashed every record in the books between 1999 and 2004. They were a dome team Pabst as well. And once they were out of the dome, they simply were not that effective. They were very beatable despite having the highest rated quarterback in NFL history, Kurt Warner. And a little guy named Marshall Faulk, you may have heard of him. So I know a little bit about high powered offenses and dome teams. And when you get those fast, speedy, high powered, deep throwing offenses out of the dome and against a good defense, they lose 8 out of 10 times.

    Pabst, the only dome team to ever win a superbowl was the 1999 St. Louis Rams and they played that Superbowl in a dome!!!!!

    There is a reason why dome teams never win the superbowl. If this game were played in Indy, I would give the edge to the Colts. But no f*cking way outdoors on a grass field with the lousy numbers Peyton has put up on the road this season. No f*cking way. The Colts team this year is about as bad a road team I think we have ever seen in the history of the Superbowl. Nuff said.
     
    #230     Jan 23, 2007