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  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    'He invited us': Accused Capitol rioters blame Trump in novel legal defense
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...me-trump-in-novel-legal-defense-idUSKBN2A219E

    Emanuel Jackson, a 20-year-old Washington area man, was caught on video using a metal bat to strike the protective shields wielded by police officers as they tried to fend off rioters storming the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

    Jackson, awaiting trial in federal court on assault charges, is now adopting a novel legal defense: seeking to pin the blame on Donald Trump, citing the former president’s remarks at a “Stop the Steal” rally shortly before the Capitol siege.

    Trump told the crowd to “fight like hell,” said “we will not take it anymore” and repeated his false claims that the election was stolen from him through widespread voting fraud. Trump exhorted his followers to go to the Capitol. The ensuing rampage interrupted the congressional certification of President Joe Biden’s election victory, sent lawmakers into hiding and left five people dead including a police officer.

    Jackson’s lawyer, Brandi Harden, wrote in a Jan. 22 court filing that “the nature and circumstances of this offense must be viewed through the lens of an event inspired by the President of the United States.”

    The Capitol siege, Harden added, “appears to have been spontaneous and sparked by the statements made during the ‘Stop the Steal’ rally.” Harden argued that Jackson should be released while awaiting trial. A judge on Jan. 22 denied the request.

    At least six of the 170 people charged in connection with the Capitol siege have tried to shift at least some of the blame onto Trump as they defend themselves in court or in the court of public opinion.

    Other defendants to take this route include Jacob Chansley, who donned a horned headdress and face paint during the attack, and Dominic Pezzola, a member of the Proud Boys right-wing extremist group who is accused of shattering a window in the Capitol with a stolen police shield so rioters could enter.

    “The boss of the country said, ‘People of the country, come on down, let people know what you think,’” Pezzola’s defense lawyer, Michael Scibetta, told Reuters. “The logical thinking was, ‘He invited us down.’”

    Lawyers have not yet sought dismissal of charges or acquittal during a trial based on the idea that Trump incited their clients, instead making the claim as part of efforts to spare them from pretrial detention.

    No defendant will be able to avoid criminal culpability by saying they were incited by Trump, said Jay Town, who served as the top federal prosecutor in Birmingham, Alabama, during the Trump administration.

    “If anything, it is an admission to criminal conduct,” said Town, now the general counsel of cybersecurity firm Gray Analytics. “While this ineffective tactic may help with headlines, it will not help the fate of any defendant.”

    Trump took to a stage near the White House and exhorted supporters to “fight” - using the word more than 20 times. Trump told the crowd that “everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol.” About 50 minutes into the speech, many of them did.

    Trump adviser Jason Miller did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the legal strategy of blaming the former president. Trump has called his speech “totally appropriate.”

    IMPEACHMENT TRIAL
    The Democratic-led House of Representatives voted to impeach Trump on a charge of “incitement of insurrection” stemming from his Jan. 6 speech. He faces an impeachment trial next week in the Senate.

    Enough of his fellow Republicans in the Senate have signaled opposition to impeachment to indicate that the chamber almost certainly will fall short of the two-thirds majority needed to convict him. Democrats hope to use the trial to disqualify him from future public office.

    Lori Ulrich, a defense lawyer in Pennsylvania, said that her client Riley June Williams was motivated by Trump’s remarks. Williams, 22, is accused of stealing a laptop from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office during the siege.

    It is “regrettable that Ms. Williams took the president’s bait and went inside the Capitol,” Ulrich told a judge at a Jan. 21 court hearing as she argued against Williams being detained while her case proceeds. The judge released Williams to home confinement.

    Some legal experts said the “blame Trump” defense could complicate matters for defendants if they eventually plead guilty in hopes of getting a lesser sentence. Town noted that federal judges require defendants who plead guilty to accept full responsibility for their conduct.

    Scibetta acknowledged the limits of the effectiveness of blaming Trump.

    “It would be reckless to put all your eggs in that basket,” Scibetta said.

    But Scibetta said Trump’s speech helps explain how people got swept away in the riot.

    “These were people acting in a way they have never acted before,” Scibetta said, “and it begs the question, ‘Who lit the fuse?”
     
    #331     Feb 2, 2021
  2. Ha....they all turned on their leader when the feds came in with 10 year prison sentences....

    pussies...

    Sorry...I believe Trump bears some punishment for constantly pushing the fake election fraud headlines and claiming it was stolen and getting his base riled up because it made his dick hard....but for these mindless fucks to try and absolve themselves completely by crying and blaming trump is just a defense lawyer grasping at straws and makes the whole attempt at justice look like bullshit.

    Those guys can blame trump all they want but they did it and should get maximum sentences. If they want to testify that they were persuaded by trump to go do it.....good for them....but you aint getting reduced sentences or free passes.
     
    #332     Feb 2, 2021
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #333     Feb 2, 2021
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  4. themickey

    themickey

    When they get out of jail, their lives may turn a corner when they decide to think for themselves rather than toady cultists singing praises of a leader.
     
    #334     Feb 2, 2021
  5. userque

    userque

    She'll go from Trump's bitch, to being someone's prison bitch, to being Don Jr.'s/Ivanka's bitch when she gets out of prison.
     
    #335     Feb 2, 2021
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    dat der privilege hitting supreme levels

    https://www.cbs7.com/2021/02/02/jen...permission-to-take-work-trip-to-mexico-beach/
    Jenny Cudd files motion asking judge for permission to take work trip to Mexico beach
    MIDLAND, Texas (KOSA) - Jenny Cudd, one of the two Midlanders charged following the riots in Washington D.C. earlier this month, has filed a motion asking for permission to take a trip to Mexico in February.

    The motion states that Cudd had planned and prepaid for a weekend retreat with her employees to go to Riviera Maya, Mexico, before her alleged offens
     
    #336     Feb 2, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

     
    #337     Feb 3, 2021
  8. A woman who was charged for her participation in the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol recently asked a judge to grant her permission to travel out of the country.

    Her reason?

    She wanted to take a vacation to Mexico, according to Insider. Or, as her lawyers worded it in a formal motion to the US District Court for the District of Columbia, the jurisdiction overseeing her case:

    "[She] planned and prepaid for a weekend retreat with her employees for the dates of February 18 through February 21, 2021, in Riviera Maya, Mexico.""This is a work-related bonding retreat for employees and their spouses."
    And according to Newsweek, the request was granted.


    Fuck justice...
     
    #338     Feb 3, 2021
  9. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

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    #339     Feb 5, 2021
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    them there Trump appointed judges, let's see if he's overruled:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_N._McFadden

     
    #340     Feb 7, 2021