D.C. Rally

Atlantic · Jan 11, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Time for the murder charges for the insurrectionists...

Prosecutors weigh ‘heavy hammer’ — felony murder — for rioters in Capitol officer’s death
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/01/prosecu...murder-for-rioters-in-capitol-officers-death/

As federal prosecutors file charges against rioters who took part in last Wednesday’s violent takeover of the U.S. Capitol, investigators continue to gather evidence in the death of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries sustained during the attack.

While most murder investigations focus on the person or persons who caused the fatal injury, former federal prosecutor Tim Heaphy said prosecutors could charge many rioters with felony murder, even if they were nowhere near Sicknick.

Heaphy led the monthslong investigation into the law enforcement performance before, during, and after the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally, in Charlottesville, Virginia. Heaphy was the U.S. Attorney for Western District of Virginia from December 2009 through January 2015, appointed by President Barack Obama.

Under the doctrine of felony murder, which applies in the District of Columbia, any murder that occurs during the commission of one of several underlying felonies is chargeable as felony murder.

“The classic example is if three guys go to rob a convenience store, and one guy is the getaway driver. If in the commission of the robbery, the clerk was shot and killed, all three of the participants in the robbery of the store are potentially guilty of felony murder,” said Heaphy.

On Jan. 6, hundreds of supporters of President Donald Trump broke through barricades and into the U.S. Capitol, as Congress worked to count the electoral votes to affirm President-Elect Joe Biden’s victory.

In the federal murder code, 11 underlying felonies which can be part of a felony murder charge are listed — one which could be applicable to the Jan. 6 takeover is burglary.

“You could look at the storming of the doors of the Capitol by that riotous mob as burglary. If they went in with the intent to steal, disrupt proceedings, to commit other offenses, they committed burglary. And, therefore, a murder that occurred during the course of a burglary could be potentially charged as felony murder,” Heaphy said.

The mere act of breaking into the Capitol doesn’t constitute burglary, Heaphy said. Prosecutors would need to prove that they intended to do something criminal, once they were inside.

“Let’s say somebody storms the Capitol with the intent to disrupt Congress, or steal the sign outside of Speaker Pelosi’s door, and there’s a murder that occurs in the midst of that, he could be charged with felony murder,” Heaphy said.

As with any crime, federal or state, prosecutors have to weigh whether charges can be sustained in court.

In this case, with the crimes committed on federal property, and in the death of a federal employee, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia — which prosecutes cases in both federal and local courts — would have the felony murder count at its disposal.

“That’s why it is such a friend to the prosecutor,” Heaphy said.

“It’s a pretty heavy hammer to charge accomplices, to charge aiders and abettors, who don’t necessarily intend to murder — if they’re going to engage in felonious conduct, they are potentially responsible for the consequences of that conduct, if death ensues.”

Asked whether Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin and Acting Principal U.S. Attorney Ken Kohl had ruled out filing felony murder charges in connections with Sicknick’s death, spokeswoman Shelia Miller said: “Since this is a pending death investigation, we cannot comment at this time.”

Prosecutors have not named any suspects in connection with the physical altercation that led to Sicknick’s death. A federal conviction for first-degree murder in the District of Columbia, unlike in D.C. Superior Court, is eligible for the death penalty.
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death row for all of them?

syswizard · Jan 11, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Here come the COVID cases from the insurrection...
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Since you are not thinking through the problem thoroughly, a key piece of information is missing:
Was she wearing a mask ?
If so, that tells us that wearing a mask alone is NOT EFFECTIVE against Covid-19.
Everyone you are near must wear one.
BTW: I've always wondered about that....

Cuddles · Jan 11, 2021

gwb-trading said:
Time for the murder charges for the insurrectionists...

Prosecutors weigh ‘heavy hammer’ — felony murder — for rioters in Capitol officer’s death
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/01/prosecu...murder-for-rioters-in-capitol-officers-death/

As federal prosecutors file charges against rioters who took part in last Wednesday’s violent takeover of the U.S. Capitol, investigators continue to gather evidence in the death of Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, who died from injuries sustained during the attack.

While most murder investigations focus on the person or persons who caused the fatal injury, former federal prosecutor Tim Heaphy said prosecutors could charge many rioters with felony murder, even if they were nowhere near Sicknick.

Heaphy led the monthslong investigation into the law enforcement performance before, during, and after the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally, in Charlottesville, Virginia. Heaphy was the U.S. Attorney for Western District of Virginia from December 2009 through January 2015, appointed by President Barack Obama.

Under the doctrine of felony murder, which applies in the District of Columbia, any murder that occurs during the commission of one of several underlying felonies is chargeable as felony murder.

“The classic example is if three guys go to rob a convenience store, and one guy is the getaway driver. If in the commission of the robbery, the clerk was shot and killed, all three of the participants in the robbery of the store are potentially guilty of felony murder,” said Heaphy.

On Jan. 6, hundreds of supporters of President Donald Trump broke through barricades and into the U.S. Capitol, as Congress worked to count the electoral votes to affirm President-Elect Joe Biden’s victory.

In the federal murder code, 11 underlying felonies which can be part of a felony murder charge are listed — one which could be applicable to the Jan. 6 takeover is burglary.

“You could look at the storming of the doors of the Capitol by that riotous mob as burglary. If they went in with the intent to steal, disrupt proceedings, to commit other offenses, they committed burglary. And, therefore, a murder that occurred during the course of a burglary could be potentially charged as felony murder,” Heaphy said.

The mere act of breaking into the Capitol doesn’t constitute burglary, Heaphy said. Prosecutors would need to prove that they intended to do something criminal, once they were inside.

“Let’s say somebody storms the Capitol with the intent to disrupt Congress, or steal the sign outside of Speaker Pelosi’s door, and there’s a murder that occurs in the midst of that, he could be charged with felony murder,” Heaphy said.

As with any crime, federal or state, prosecutors have to weigh whether charges can be sustained in court.

In this case, with the crimes committed on federal property, and in the death of a federal employee, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia — which prosecutes cases in both federal and local courts — would have the felony murder count at its disposal.

“That’s why it is such a friend to the prosecutor,” Heaphy said.

“It’s a pretty heavy hammer to charge accomplices, to charge aiders and abettors, who don’t necessarily intend to murder — if they’re going to engage in felonious conduct, they are potentially responsible for the consequences of that conduct, if death ensues.”

Asked whether Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin and Acting Principal U.S. Attorney Ken Kohl had ruled out filing felony murder charges in connections with Sicknick’s death, spokeswoman Shelia Miller said: “Since this is a pending death investigation, we cannot comment at this time.”

Prosecutors have not named any suspects in connection with the physical altercation that led to Sicknick’s death. A federal conviction for first-degree murder in the District of Columbia, unlike in D.C. Superior Court, is eligible for the death penalty.
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May they pray for mercy from God emperor Joe the Humble, pardoner of retards

gwb-trading · Jan 11, 2021

syswizard said:
Since you are not thinking through the problem thoroughly, a key piece of information is missing:
Was she wearing a mask ?
If so, that tells us that wearing a mask alone is NOT EFFECTIVE against Covid-19.
Everyone you are near must wear one.
BTW: I've always wondered about that....
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Basic non-N95 masks are effective in stopping the transmission of COVID to others from you.

Basic non-N95 masks are not very effective in stopping you from catching COVID from others.

syswizard · Jan 11, 2021

gwb-trading said:

Time for the murder charges for the insurrectionists...
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What about the murder-charges for that officer that shot that woman in the neck, killing her ?
She had no weapon, only a banner.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/who-was-ashli-babbitt.html
Clearly, another George Floyd incident.
Stupid actions by a stupid cop....of which we have too many of. Instead of gun training, these guys need "common sense" training. Our law enforcement is F'd up....big time. I don't trust any cop any longer.

gwb-trading · Jan 11, 2021

syswizard said:
What about the murder-charges for that officer that shot that woman in the neck, killing her ?
She had no weapon, only a banner.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/who-was-ashli-babbitt.html
Clearly, another George Floyd incident.
Stupid actions by a stupid cop....of which we have too many of. Instead of gun training, these guys need "common sense" training. Our law enforcement is F'd up....big time. I don't trust any cop any longer.
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Actually the insurrections will be charged with murder for her death as well. If a murder occurs of your fellow crime conspirator while you are involved in the commission of a crime then you are also responsible for their murder.

Typical example -- if a homeowner shoots a criminal dead when three criminals attempt a home invasion then the two surviving criminals are also charged with murder. Their criminal activity was responsible for the death.

gwb-trading · Jan 11, 2021

CREW statement on Trump supporters breaching the Capitol
https://www.citizensforethics.org/n...nt-on-trump-supporters-breaching-the-capitol/

Following the invasion of the Capitol by supporters of President Trump, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington Executive Director Noah Bookbinder released the following statement:

“President Trump has used every resource he has to overthrow our democracy and install himself as dictator. When voters said no, when the courts said no, when even his own vice president said no, he incited his supporters to take violent action against the government to try to stop the peaceful transition of power that forms the basis of our democracy. There’s a reason he won’t speak out against it: this is what he wants. This cannot be seen as anything other than a violent insurrection against our democratic government instigated by the sitting president and some of his supporters in Congress. President Trump has become an enemy of democracy. That will forever be his legacy.”

Cuddles · Jan 11, 2021

Tony Stark · Jan 11, 2021

syswizard said:
So typical of government....we needed them last week. Now it's overkill.
How much is this going to cost ?
Oh wait, this is for Biden so cost is never a consideration. Expect much of more of this wastefulness in the upcoming administration.
We are going to be so bankrupt by 2024.
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Trump came into office with a 600 billion dollar a year deficit.He is leaving office with a 4 trillion dollar deficit.

syswizard · Jan 11, 2021

gwb-trading said:

President Trump has become an enemy of democracy. That will forever be his legacy.”
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Right. He reduced government spending, eliminated stupid laws, reduced bureaucracy, stood-up to China and Russia, reduced taxes, championed the small businessman, championed the farmer, made us energy-independent of those ass-hole Saudis....and the list goes on and on.
Democracy gone ? Of course, NOW IT IS, I can't express my views on Parler....the liberals have now taken away my right to express my views. Socialism is imminent under Biden. Biden is already in control.