Cushing predicting another crash in oil prices?

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Error Correction Funder, Apr 10, 2018.

  1. Yes, that was the IEA.

    The EIA said this as the 2014 collapse had already begun almost a month before:

    Despite recent disruptions to OPEC supply and tighter world oil balances, EIA expects continued strong growth in non-OPEC supply to place downward pressure on Brent crude oil prices, causing them to gradually decrease through 2015, according to EIA's August 2014 Short-Term Energy Outlook. EIA forecasts that total world petroleum and other liquids supply will grow by 1.5 million bbl/d and 1.3 million bbl/d in 2014 and 2015, respectively, while Brent crude oil prices are forecasted to fall from an average of $108/bbl in 2014 to an average of $105/bbl in 2015.​

    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=17651

    Quite the understatement.

    It should be obvious that last week's price rise and current fall in oil prices is mostly due to Syria, next door to where they put all the dead dinosaurs.

    We'll see how long businesses bringing future demand forward because of expected tariffs will last.
     
    #61     Apr 15, 2018
  2. Overnight

    Overnight


    Hindsight is brilliant. Where you going from here? Up 3 bux from the current price of 67, or down 3 bux from current price of 67? Supply and demand concerns? Summer waves? Winter disruptions? Hell, the hurricane season starts in 7 months. In terms of futures, that's equivalent to next quarter.
     
    #62     Apr 15, 2018
  3. I'm not in. Explanation above.

    Explanation also above as to the price action, essentially a larger version of 2011.
     
    #63     Apr 15, 2018
  4. bone

    bone

    Oh the sins of omission... LOL :D Larger font and bold type won't mask them !

    Last statement in the article: "For now oil is up only 22 cents, meaning those who hurry can make a quick buck as Gartman is stopped out in the next day or two." Tyler Durden the author said this of course because Gartman was risking $1.20 to target $5-$7 - hardly the hyperbolic rabid "crash" (your words) you proselytize. It's a position trade. If it was a crash he would be targeting $35 to $45...

    Also of note are Gartman's other past calls: "We won't see crude above $44 in my lifetime", and "should stabilize around $37".

    Finally for your own humility please take care to note the article's pointed reference to the backwardation term structure (props to Mav) but there is absolutely NO mention of Cushing stocks - which was the original premise of you starting this thread and your first three or four pages of musings until quite possibly facts got in your way on Cushing as the magical unicorn.
     
    #65     Apr 17, 2018
  5. The post about Gartman was a joke. Like your analysis.
     
    #66     Apr 17, 2018
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  7. truetype

    truetype

    Selling subscriptions!
     
    #68     Apr 18, 2018
  8. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    #69     Apr 18, 2018
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  9. You still struggling with the difference between GDP and the S&P?

    How long have you been doing this again?
     
    #70     Apr 18, 2018