Currency Futures Vs Spot

Discussion in 'Financial Futures' started by Blinz45, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. Blinz45

    Blinz45

    the main problem is that i use tick charts. futures have less ticks then spot and the bars take longer to form and i get in later. i hate time based charts. thats my real dilemma i get better looking charts with spot charts due to a higher tick count but i get the headache of having to deal with spot fx brokers. thats the main reason i want to know if using spot charts are good enough to trade futures.
     
    #11     Dec 18, 2007
  2. Why not just change the duration of the tick charts?

    I use tick charts as well for my spot and futures chart for the Euro.
     
    #12     Dec 18, 2007
  3. This question has been debated a million times here on ET. Do a search and you will get some reading material for your morning constitutional.
     
    #13     Dec 18, 2007
  4. So there is a slight inaccuracy in my statement, but it is still a future price. (the price with interest in the future.)
     
    #14     Dec 18, 2007
  5. MTE

    MTE

    You wanna scalp futures off the spot chart!?:confused: Are you kidding?

    As others have mentioned, you can probably get away with trading longer time frames, but scalping...I said it once, I'll say it again...WATCH WHAT YOU TRADE!
     
    #15     Dec 19, 2007
  6. your wasting your time.

    the futures against the spot or forwards are arb'd to death.

    this was one of the first arbs to go with electronic trading.

    people are obsessed with risk free arb trades.

    THEY DO NO EXIST ANYMORE.

    take a view on the currency in question and trade it like everybody else.
     
    #16     Dec 19, 2007
  7. Blinz45

    Blinz45

    My trading has nothing to do with arbitrage. When i say scalp i dont mean 1-2 pips off chart imbalance. i mean take 5-10 pips on a genuine move. I have a few custom indicators that don't work that well on futures charts thats my biggest problem. futures charts are either way too early of just very late.
     
    #17     Dec 19, 2007
  8. cvds16

    cvds16

    what other people are saying is this: that's just impossible, they trade exactly in the same way. They are arbed to death.
     
    #18     Dec 19, 2007
  9. MSE

    MSE

    Spot forex does not quote trades -- the trades are just not available in the data stream. Only bids and offers are quoted. What you typically see depending on your charting software is the midpoint of the best bid/ask at any given time. Every time the bid or ask levels change for any reason you get another "tick". There is also no trade volume with spot. With futures every tick is a real trade (with possible variations due to quote snapshots or aggregations). With spot a higher level of ticks is actually showing a higher level of quote (bid or offer) changes, which is not necessarily indicative of any trades going on. Also, spot is not a localized market -- trades can be happening at any time between counterparties somewhere in the world that may not show up in any way in your quotes.

    Most of this may not matter depending on your approach, but it may be important to bear in mind that the information contained in spot ticks is not indicative of trades. Still, when bid/ask midpoints move from one price to another, you can trade with the quotes at the new level, and whether or not anyone else has traded at the new level may be irrelevant (and also cannot be known).
     
    #19     Dec 23, 2007
  10. Some of the ECNs post volume. Hotspot's volume data is available through a variety of quote vendors.
     
    #20     Dec 23, 2007