no i figured out how u could actually make that system quite efficient and take out about 70-80% of the whipsaws, i think theoretically it could become a decent edge if traded with a good position sizing system. Buy = 12 Day MA + 50%(14 day ATR) Sell = 12 Day MA - 50%(14 day ATR) You could look at adding units in 1 - 2 ATR intervals and make sure that your max risk is only 1-2 ATR