CTA: How do “Give-Up” & “Take-Up” work?

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by dabao91, Apr 13, 2007.

  1. dabao91

    dabao91

    CTA: How do “Give-Up” & “Take-Up” work?

    Does any one have any experience with “Give-UP” and “Take-UP” process used by CTA? If you do would you mind to share some of your experiences? Thanks in advances.

    Assumptions: Assuming you are an emerging CTA. You specify that you will always trade through FCM-A in your disclosure document, but you clients can open accounts with any FCM (such as FCM-A, FCM-B, FCM-C, etc).

    If you client’s account is also in the same FCM-A, you would have no problem to trade it. No need to involve “Give-Up” or “Take-Up”.

    However if you client account is not with FCM-A (in FCM-B for example), in this case, FCM-A must support “Give-Up” and FCM-B must support “Take-Up”, so that you can trade in FCM-A and allocate the shares to the client account in FCM-B. After you trade, FCM-A give-up shares to FCM-B to the client account.

    Questions:

    1. When you login FCM-A advisor account, how do you know balance, position of the client accounts in other FCMs, such as in FCM-B?
    2. Does the trading platform using with FCM-A show the account balances and positions of the accounts with FCM-B?
    3. If yes, which FCM and trading platform support these functionalities?
    4. If no, how do you keep track the account balances, positions, etc of the client accounts in the FCMs other than FCM-A? How complicate to administrate this if you have many client accounts with many FCM?
    5. Where I can find more information related to this subject to read?
    6. Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advances.
     
  2. dabao91

    dabao91

    CTA: How do Give-Up & Take-Up work?

    Does any one have any experience with Give-Up and Take-Up?process used by CTA? If you do would you mind to share some of your experiences? Thanks in advances.

    Assumptions: Assuming you are an emerging CTA. You specify that you will always trade through FCM-A in your disclosure document, but you clients can open accounts with any FCM (such as FCM-A, FCM-B, FCM-C, etc).

    If you clients account is also in the same FCM-A, you would have no problem to trade it. No need to involve Give-Up or Take-Up?

    However if you client account is not with FCM-A (in FCM-B for example), in this case, FCM-A must support Give-Up?and FCM-B must support Take-Up? so that you can trade in FCM-A and allocate the shares to the client account in FCM-B. After you trade, FCM-A give-up shares to FCM-B to the client account.

    Questions:

    1. When you login FCM-A advisor account, how do you know balance, position of the client accounts in other FCMs, such as in FCM-B?
    2. Does the trading platform using with FCM-A show the account balances and positions of the accounts with FCM-B?
    3. If yes, which FCM and trading platform support these functionalities?
    4. If no, how do you keep track the account balances, positions, etc of the client accounts in the FCMs other than FCM-A? How complicate to administrate this if you have many client accounts with many FCM?
    5. Where I can find more information related to this subject to read?
    6. Any other suggestions?

    Thanks in advances.