Crypto will likely be shut down

Discussion in 'Crypto Assets' started by Specterx, Oct 11, 2023.

  1. maxinger

    maxinger

    Terrorist is defined by the rich and powerful.
    The weak has a different definition.
     
    #21     Oct 11, 2023
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  2. EliteIB

    EliteIB

    The dude decided to starve himself to death in jail, you can't pin that on anybody. Hamas drew the first blood and targeted innocent peaceful civilians. They are terrorists. There is nothing you can say that will change that.
     
    #22     Oct 11, 2023
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  3. #23     Oct 11, 2023
  4. I simply wish you were there, right in the middle of Gaza, that's all.
     
    #24     Oct 11, 2023
  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    You only looked at what happened over the past few days.

    You have to look at it over the past few years / centuries
    and also look at the big picture.

    Then you can decide whether
    Israelis is a devil/terrorist or
    Gaza people/Hamas is a devil/terrorist or
    both or none at all.


    BBC explains the Israel borders clearly :

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54116567

    Of course, there are many other sources of info.
    You have to get the info from multiple sources and not just from the West.
     
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    #25     Oct 11, 2023
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  6. EliteIB

    EliteIB

    Me too so I could've defended Gaza better against Hamas.
     
    #26     Oct 12, 2023
  7. EliteIB

    EliteIB

    All I want to say is Palestinians and all those Arab countries should just accept the fact that Israel is there and is there to stay. It's been there for a long time and it will be there for a longer time to come. If they can all do this then there would be no war.
     
    #27     Oct 12, 2023
  8. VicBee

    VicBee

    There's probably not one Muslim who doesn't want Israel wiped off the map. That was true 1000 years ago, 100 years ago and today. The fact remains that Jews are a minority in the Arab world and would only be tolerated there the way they are tolerated anywhere else in the world, as a semi silent minority. But Hitler and nazis had something else in mind and their failure changed the course of History. With the help of Western nations, the state of Israel was created and soon protected from the ire of the Muslim world. Truth is, Germany should have given up a chunk of its territory as reparation but that's a different story.
    Israel's survival and dominance today comes from the support of the United States. Their dominance is also their arrogance, their humiliation of Muslim people, which is intolerable to many in the Muslim world. Yet, Israel knows that their survival depends or their ruthlessness and anything less will lead to their being wiped off the map.

    There are peace seeking Muslims and Jews on both sides, but a stabbing, a bomb, a prepared attack by those wanting nothing but war is all it takes to drown any and all efforts towards a settlement.

    The premise that peace would come if Palestinians got their wishes is naive. A new generation of demands would be made and peace seeking Palestinians hold no power in a land of cheap weapons and organized militias.

    This most violent attack is the unfortunate but real opportunity for Israel to take decisive action by invading Gaza and sending all Palestinians to the West Bank or wherever countries would accept them. Neither Israeli nor Palestinians can continue to live in a permanent semi state of war.
     
    #28     Oct 12, 2023
  9. I really hope you are trolling, no one in their right mind would say that.
     
    #29     Oct 12, 2023
  10. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    It's not that easy. Israel is colonizing and pushing into Palestinian territory. It's a policy of the far right wing gov in power in Israel. It would probably help if Israelites voted differently (for now, Netanyahu has been doing his best to erode the supreme court's independence).

    So basically, Hamas et al see that Israel is not sincere about peace and at least for that reason continue war (Iran/Russia wanting to stirr shit up might well contribute but is a different discussion). Not that it excuses this disgusting deliberate targeting of civilians (which is arguably worse than Israel's calculated collateral bombing damages, but I'm not a fan of comparing horrors since it harbors whataboutism). Suffice to say that Israel's revenge bombings are not a long term solution and it will just make even more terrorists when people unrelated to Hamas lose their loved ones.
     
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    #30     Oct 12, 2023
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