Crude Oil

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by JFonseca, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. For the first time since the virus crisis began...

    There are less active cases in Spain than there were yesterday. Spain's curve is beginning to decline.

    Italy will follow. Then the rest.

    We'll be 90% past this in 3 weeks.
     
    #161     Apr 12, 2020
  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    You mean 3 months. We have a lot more people than Spain and Italy. We won't be peaking until Autumn.
     
    #162     Apr 12, 2020

  3. It means two things one is like you said they are waiting but i doubt crude will stay where its at it will either drop lower to the 17s or it means the second thing is its ginna go up but smart money is pushing it down to get you and other to think what they think then shoot higher dont forget the market is designed to fool the max amount of people max amount of time

    A drop none the less is not far similar to
    Gold during the gulf
    War declaration it barely went up dew cents ans
    Then was a great short

    meanwhile i just bought more crude,, the swings in this thing open up nearby 24.5 down to 22.5 then up to 24.5 again and now again back down to 22.5 these swings are making me take an even smaller position long term and bigger positions medium term simply
    Buy n sell the highs n lows of the day plus there is some
    clear intraday supports that keep holding up all within the swing trade position personally i woudlnt day trade it as i have very little experience in day trading ie i would trade it intra day still within my swing trade position size and without a stop,, cost is i will
    Miss out if it does go to
    Higher range and iam out of the bulk of the position but if it keeps zigzagging a reward lies there
     
    #163     Apr 13, 2020
  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    The obvious is never the obvious.

    But it wasn't much of a pop. Then again neither were the cuts.

    So it is only a matter of time before another drop comes.
     
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    #164     Apr 13, 2020
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  5. Always keep in mind that Trump now has a passionate interest in higher oil prices, just like in the past he wanted lower prices. So this is not a "normal" oil trading environment. The jawboning continues:

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    Donald J. Trump

    ✔@realDonaldTrump

    · 1h

    Having been involved in the negotiations, to put it mildly, the number that OPEC+ is looking to cut is 20 Million Barrels a day, not the 10 Million that is generally being reported. If anything near this happens, and the World gets back to business from the Covid 19.....

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    Donald J. Trump

    ✔@realDonaldTrump


    ....disaster, the Energy Industry will be strong again, far faster than currently anticipated. Thank you to all of those who worked with me on getting this very big business back on track, in particular Russia and Saudi Arabia.


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    7:31 AM - Apr 13, 2020
     
    #165     Apr 13, 2020
  6. Another point of consideration is from the frequently excellent analysis presented daily by Ashraf Laidi''s group. His book was a foundational part of my education:

    "Also worrisome is speculators's tourism in the oil market. Obscure people we follow on twitter for oil news are suddenly celebrities. Technical news are getting hundreds of retweets. People are trying to crunch the supply numbers and are oblivious to the demand side, which is more opaque than any time in history. In normal times you can reasonably peg down the supply/demand balance within 500K bpd. Right now the spread – even among good analysts – is 20-40 mbpd.

    Those flows are creating incredible short-term moves that makes any fundamental foray into oil treacherous. Squeezes can be limitless but ultimately, so long as supply exceeds demand, there's no floor in oil."

    http://ashraflaidi.com/forex-news/why-oil-is-different
     
    #166     Apr 13, 2020
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  7. The production cuts may not put a floor in oil prices, but they do provide some psychological support for the commodity. There will be fewer gap moves lower, which will mean lower realized volatility, alleviating a lot of the uncertainty. There's also the notion that OPEC+, US & others will be compelled to cut more if oil prices remain persistently low.

    We could still go to $15 in WTI but it will probably be a grinding move lower. If prices become rangebound between $20 and $30 and WTI struggles to go below $20, the gap move risks will switch to the upside and shorts could be caught totally off-guard.
     
    #167     Apr 13, 2020
  8. Exaaaactly on point,, the whole
    World and traders were waiting saying if they make a deal and they gonna make a deal and prices gonna go up,, if it was that simple
    Everyone would make millions
     
    #168     Apr 13, 2020
  9. Atikon

    Atikon

    20% in 2 days, I'm fine with that. Waiting for tested bottom to load up again after tomorrows report
     
    Last edited: Apr 14, 2020
    #169     Apr 14, 2020
  10. xandman

    xandman

    #170     Apr 14, 2020
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