Crude is screwed, man.

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Overnight, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. bone

    bone

    The use of the term 'instantaneous' was a double entendre of your own origin a few posts ago - I would never have introduced the term into this discussion.

    Commodity Commercials will be the first market participants to adjust price valuations according to fundamental change into the markets, IMO that is a certainty.
     
    #321     Apr 4, 2017
  2. Here we are in agreement.
     
    #322     Apr 4, 2017
  3. Even so, that does not preclude fundamentals from being fully reflected in prices over a period of time.

    My only point was that price at any given moment does not necessarily discount and fully reflect all of the relevant fundamentals. If anything, the relationship is fairly more tenuous, as suggested by Soros and his reflexivity theory.
     
    #323     Apr 4, 2017
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Thank you for the article. But we've seen this shit many times before. Anyone remember last year's "lower-than-expected" demand for gasoline?

    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/anot...asoline-demand-disappointed-says-analyst.html

    There has to be a way to find a decent edge in CL. If it cannot be found in Crude, which is highly liquid and somewhat "predictable", where else can it be found? There are SOOOO many factors affecting the price of CL, petroleum distillates notwithstanding. How do we find our edge? It has to be out there dammit!
     
    #324     Apr 4, 2017
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    #325     Apr 4, 2017
  6. bone

    bone

    Yeah, and if you knew how to chart the Gasoline Crack Spread, you would have seen that what this August 03, 2016 article stated afterwards was clearly illustrated in the chart for TWO MONTHS PRIOR. It was a very good sell signal. From the beginning of June to the end of July in 2016, they sold off the Gas Crack Spread. HARD.

    Conversely, the Gasoline Crack Spread has rallied very hard the past three weeks. Gasoline has been outperforming CL bigly.
     
    #326     Apr 4, 2017
  7. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    I believe the edge in every market is management of risk. When you are wrong, lose a little and when right, reap full benefit.
     
    #327     Apr 4, 2017
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Update on my current trade in May CL----I am long from 49.06 with current pricing at 50.97
     
    #328     Apr 4, 2017
  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    The correct spelling is "Big League"
     
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    #329     Apr 4, 2017
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  10. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Traders, in my view, spend a lot of time on analyzing markets and their fundamentals and I just don't think that those are important at all. Focus on context and price. It can all be seen on a chart.--Ishmael
     
    #330     Apr 4, 2017