Critique this position sizing method

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Daal, Apr 6, 2016.

  1. Daal

    Daal

    Is this really a big deal? For the system to lose that much it will be a pretty rare event. extra trading costs weigthed the probability seems to be a minor factor
     
    #21     Apr 6, 2016
  2. Depends on what your half kelly is. Suppose you think that your SR is 1.0 implying annualised vol of 100% full kelly, 50% half kelly.

    If you run at 50% vol on a quarter of your full capital, then on an average day you'd lose 50% / 16 ~ 3%. It's not infeasible you'd lose 10% in one day and have to cut positions 10%. Doesn't sound much but that can easily rack up serious trading costs.

    If you run at 50% x 1/4 = 12.5% vol on your full capital then an average day would be less than 1%, and your regearing trades would almost be lost amongst your other trading.

    GAT
     
    #22     Apr 6, 2016
  3. magicz

    magicz

    trade for a few years to get good stats on your ratio then apply kelly for optimum growth. Always adjust the ratio as you gather more data thru your trading. a trader starting out using kelly is ridonkculous! and probably a lot of wishful thinking.
     
    #23     Apr 6, 2016
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  4. Fonz

    Fonz

    brainyforex.com/position-sizing-methods.
    Hope this help.

    I use the % Capital method (since I become aware of risk...) which I call %Risk:
    For Forex accounts: Lots to trade = Equity * Risk% / (Stop Loss in Pips * Pip Value) / 100
    I don't care about margin since I the risk that I take is between 1.5 and 3%.
    I still use this formula for Forex, Equities and Futures. The risk that I take is related to a specific strategy (expectancy, peak of DD and duration of DD). I have 5 strategies. I take 5 different amount of risk.
     
    #24     Apr 6, 2016
  5. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Here is my current recommendation for a real-world trading fraction:

    Trading fraction = min[ 0.9/max[ .0001 , 2*max[ -Ri ]_i=1toN ] , ½*NKF ] ,
    where
    NKF = the new Kelly formula (see below) ,
    Ri = the return (fractional) of the i'th trade ,
    N = the number of trades.

    NKF = max[ 0, s1 ]*( s2*s2 - s1*s3 )/(s2*s2*s2 + s1*s1*s4 - 2*s1*s2*s3) ,
    where
    S1 = sum[ Ri ]_i=1toN ,
    S2 = sum[ Ri*Ri ]_i=1toN ,
    S3 = sum[ Ri*Ri*Ri ]_i=1toN ,
    S4 = sum[ Ri*Ri*Ri*Ri ]_i=1toN.
     
    #25     Apr 7, 2016
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