I did. You should have read my response. Don't expect me to repeat it. ET does have search function. This thread is about elephants in Donkey suits and Critical Race Theory, whatever that is. Why don't you chime in, and let us know your thoughts.
You never provided one. Sorry, if you misspoke, just say you misspoke. The Mueller report does not claim that Donald Trump colluded with Russia. Is that clear? You lost fair and square.
Are you stating there were no black representatives in Congress from the South prior 1960? You better go do some research on the facts. Does Senator Hiram Revels from Mississippi ring a bell? How about Representative Joseph Rainey from South Carolina?
That's precisely what I am stating! From the deep South, after reconstruction ended until after integration, virtually none. Two or three in the entire Congress maybe over that period (but I doubt there were any at all). By the deep South I mean those states where a bell was rung in town on Saturday afternoon at 5 pm and all blacks had to be off the streets. Where there were signs on drinking fountains labeled "colored" and "white", etc. That's the real "Deep South" and that didn't go away from the end of reconstruction until after integration, and then only slowly with resistance and further bloodshed. By the way Revels and Rainey were both there as a result of "reconstruction". Recall that during "reconstruction" the deep South legislatures were virtually all black (I think they were all black). Then the lynching and killing started. By force and subterfuge, the Whites wrested control of the State legislatures away the blacks. U.S. Presidents, and the Federal Government did not intervene to stop it. You can date "the end of reconstruction" from the moment the white southerners took back control of the State legislatures.
OK, so we teach the kids about the slave trade, why black Americans have white surnames, why American had hardly any pure blood black people because the women like maids were an accepted form of contraception for white ladies and on and on until we explain how Hitler and the reich got nearly all their ideas from America as it was one of the very last Western nations to move past codified apartheid and not all that long ago. Or we don't teach this because GWB's rugrats would feel belittled? Its odd though, I learned all of this and I felt fine. I'd have told my parents and my mom and dad would have squashed any teacher getting too weird like a bug. Because they are only teachers and have fuck all power except against weak minded poor parents.
I am not against teaching the social history of America to K-12 students including all the aspects of slavery. I have stated multiple times that our full history should be taught - warts and all. However I will note there is some minimum age where talking about “relations” between owners and slaves is acceptable— probably in high school only (certainly not in third grade for instance). However we should not be using CRT-based lesson plans in schools — separating children on the basis of race and calling one group “oppressors”. This is not education, it is child abuse.
Well you are getting your wish and its not going to work out like you think. Little to none of this has anything to do with your tape-recording like stated and restated concern. Child abuse is a coming alright. Nobody expects you to see the bigger picture here, woods for the trees and all. Appendix: Legislative and administrative actions regarding CRT Last updated: November 21, 2021 Successful bans by legislatures Arizona House Bill 2898, which was signed by Gov. Doug Ducey on 6/30/21, prohibited the use of “public monies for instruction that presents any form of blame or judgment on the basis of race, ethnicity or sex” in K-12 public/charter schools and establishes fines for violations. However, on 11/2/21 the Arizona Supreme Court upheld a trial court ruling that HB2898 violates the state constitution by including multiple subjects in a single bill, and it was invalidated. See the Arizona Board of Education guidance here. Idaho House Bill 377, which was signed by Gov. Brad Little on 4/28/21, bans teaching specified concepts about race and gender in public schools, public charter schools, and public institutions of higher education. Iowa House File 802, which was signed by Gov. Kim Reynolds on 6/8/21, bans incorporating specified concepts regarding race and sex into mandatory trainings for government agencies, teachers, and higher education students. Specified concepts must also not be included in curriculum in public K-12 schools. New Hampshire Anti-CRT section was incorporated into House Bill 2, the state budget trailer, and signed by Gov. Chris Sununu on 6/25/21. This bill prohibits teaching specified concepts in public schools and in governmental agency trainings. North Dakota House Bill 1508, which was signed by Gov. Doug Burgum on 11/15/21, prohibits K-12 public schools from instruction related to critical race theory, which is defined in the bill as the “that racism is systemically embedded in American society and the American legal system to facilitate racial inequality.” Oklahoma House Bill 1775, which was signed by Gov. Kevin Stitt on 5/7/21, prohibits public institutions of higher education from requiring students to participate in mandatory gender/sexuality diversity training, and bans teaching specified concepts about race and sex in public schools. The Oklahoma Department of Education elaborated here about how the law will operate, including reporting violations. South Carolina Anti-CRT section incorporated into the education section of H. 4100, the state budget bill, which was passed on 6/30/21. This bill prohibits schools receiving state funding from teaching specified concepts regarding race and sex. Tennessee House Bill 580, which was signed by Governor Lee on 5/25/21, bans public school districts and public charter schools from teaching certain concepts about race, sex, and the United States, withholds state funding for violations. The Tennessee State Department of Education details these rules and the complaint system here. Texas House Bill 3979 (signed into law on 6/15/21) was replaced with stricter legislation, Senate Bill 3 (signed into law on 9/17/21). SB3 makes significant changes to required civics education curriculum, establishes a new civics training program for teachers, requires that both sides of current controversial issues are presented, prohibits teaching certain concepts regarding race and sex and giving academic credit for advocacy work. State legislatures that have/are considering a ban or that have pre-filed bills for next session Alabama Two bills have been pre=filed for the next legislative session: · HB8 would limit the concepts about race and sex that public schools and universities can teach · HB11 would require public schools and universities to terminate employees that teach certain concepts about race and sex Alaska · Rep. Thomas McKay (R) pre-filed a bill that would ban teaching certain concepts about race and sex and ban the 1619 Project Arkansas · Senate Bill 627 passed. It limits how most state agencies can train employees about “divisive concepts” · Bills limiting how racism is taught in schools (HB1218) and banning the 1619 project in schools (HB1231) have failed thus far Florida Although the BOE already passed new rules regarding teaching about race and gender, additional legislation (HB57) has been pre-filed that would dictate how concepts related to race and gender are taught at K-12 public schools, public universities, state colleges, state agencies, local governments, and private businesses with state/local government contracts Kentucky Two bills have been pre-filed for the next legislative session: · BR 60 would ban certain concepts from being taught in public K-12 schools and establish financial penalties for disobeying. It also bans mandatory diversity training at public universities. · BR 69 would ban concepts from being taught both in public K-12 schools and in public universities; institutions that disobey would be legally liable. Louisiana House Bill 564 would ban “divisive concepts” from being taught in public schools and public postsecondary institutions, but it has been deferred for now Maine HP 395 would ban certain subjects/concepts regarding race and gender from being taught in public schools Michigan · Senate Bill 460 would ban (and withhold 5% of state funding to districts who do not cooperate) the teaching of the 1619 Project and specified concepts regarding race and gender in K-12 public and charter schools · House Bill 5097, which passed the House in November 2021, would ban specified concepts regarding race and gender from being included in the core curriculum standards set by the State Board of Education and local school districts Mississippi · House Resolution 62 and Senate Resolution 56 condemn critical race theory but do not address schools specifically · In the FY23 Executive Budget Recommendation, Governor Reeves urges legislators to pass an anti-CRT bill and proposes a “$3 million investment in a Patriotic Education Fund” Missouri House Bill 952 would ban certain concepts from being taught in state agencies, school districts, public postsecondary institutions, and state-funded charter schools, including specified curriculum (1619 Project, Learning for Justice Curriculum by SPLC, We Stories, programs by Educational Equity Consultants, BLM at School, Teaching for Change, Zinn Education Project). State funding would be withheld from entities who violate these rules. New Jersey S-4166 would prohibit specified concepts from being taught in public schools, mandate teachers to present “materials supporting both sides of a controversial issue [an issue that is part of an electoral party platform]”and require the State Board of Education to introduce rules prohibiting political advocacy in the classroom New York A8253 would ban Regents and school districts in New York from establishing curriculum that teaches specified concepts related to race and from teaching the 1619 Project North Carolina House Bill 324 would ban certain concepts from being taught in public schools and charter schools; it passed the state House and Senate but was vetoed in September by Gov. Cooper Ohio · House Bill 322 states that teachers who discuss current events must introduce multiple perspectives, bans extra credit for political advocacy work, bans private funding for curriculum deemed unacceptable by bill, bans state agencies and school districts from teaching certain concepts · House Bill 327 would ban school districts and state agencies from teaching various “divisive concepts,” would withhold state funding to districts that disobeyed Pennsylvania House Bill 1532 would ban public postsecondary institutions, state and local governments, and school districts from teaching certain concepts, a violation would result in a loss of state funding Rhode Island H 6070 would prohibit teaching of “divisive concepts” in schools, state and municipal contracts and training programs West Virginia · House Bill 2595 would ban state employees or contractors, as well as schools, from teaching “divisive concepts” and would withhold state funding for violations · Senate Bill 618 would ban the State Board of Education from implementing curriculum that promotes “divisive concepts” and “critical race theory” and allows for the firing of teachers who teach certain concepts related to race and gender Wisconsin · Senate Bill 411 would prohibit certain concepts from being taught in public schools and charter schools, with violations resulting in a loss of 10% of state funding. Also requires curricula used to be posted online. · Senate Bill 410 would restrict the types of racism/sexism training that state agencies can conduct · Senate Bill 409 would ban certain concepts from being taught in University of Wisconsin System and the Technical College System and restricts permissible employee training, with violations resulting in funding cuts Wyoming State Senators plan to introduce the “Civics Transparency Act” would require school districts to post learning materials and activities used in the preceding year Federal-level action being considered · The “Saving History Act of 2021” would withhold federal funding, with some exceptions, from schools that teach the 1619 Project. · The “Ending Critical Race Theory in D.C. Public Schools Act,” introduced by a representative from Wisconsin, would ban certain concepts from being taught in D.C. public and charter schools. · The “Stop CRT Act” would withhold federal funding from schools and universities that promote “race-based theories.” · The Senate passed an amendment to the budget resolution with Manchin’s support blocking federal funding from being used to teach CRT in pre-K and K-12 schools. · The “PEACE Act” would prohibit federal American History and civics education programming funds from being used to teach “divisive concepts.” · The “Protecting Students from Racial Hostility Act” would amend Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to make the teaching of “divisive concepts” discriminatory, establishes a system for reporting related complaints. Actions taken by state boards of education Alabama Alabama’s State Board of Education passed this resolution in August 2021, and voted to permanently incorporate it into the BOE administrative code in October 2021 Florida Rule amendment here Georgia Resolution here Utah New rules here, prompted by resolutions passed by the Utah Legislature instructing the board to address CRT in new rules Actions taken by other state actors Montana State Attorney General ruled that teaching CRT is discriminatory and unlawful, schools or public workplaces that offer CRT training could lose state funding or be liable to lawsuits South Dakota · The state Appropriations Committee sent a letter to the state Department of Education encouraging them to reject federal grants for teaching history and civics, noting that they expect to address CRT next legislative session · Gov Noem signed “1776 Pledge” Actions taken by local school boards Cobb County, Georgia Cobb County “will not implement Critical Race Theory, also called CRT, in our schools – not under that name nor any other name; nor will we be using the 1619 Project in our schools – not under that name nor under any other name.” Cherokee County, Georgia “NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by vote of the members of the Cherokee County Board of Education at a duly called meeting held on May 20, 2021, the Cherokee County School Board and Cherokee County School District in pursuit of the aforementioned goals and objectives will NOT implement “Critical Race Theory,” also called CRT, in our schools – not under that name nor by any other name, nor will we be using The 1619 Project in our schools – not under that name nor by any other name.” Brunswick County, North Carolina “This policy shall ensure that social theories of any kind (i.e. Holocaust Denial Theory, 9/11 Theory, Critical Race Theory) are not presented to students unless approved by the Brunswick County Board of Education. It is the responsibility of the Board to ensure that curricular standards are taught using well documented, factual resources and not opinion or conjecture.” Gallatin County, Kentucky Superintendent stated that the board believes “no individual is ‘inherently racist, sexist or oppressive’ due to their race or sex, ‘whether consciously or unconsciously.’ Agenda item VI.I. from the June 15 BOE meeting “Discussion/Action to Ban Critical Race Theory in Gallatin County School District” was a statement to affirm the belief and commitment to ensure every child’s needs will be met. Furthermore, the effort was to not create greater divisions among students and staff through the promotion of CRT.” Chesterfield County, Virginia School board chairman said that “critical race theory is not supported by members of the board. In Chesterfield, our goal is unity, not division.” Sullivan County, Tennessee High school teacher Matthew Hawn was recently fired for assigning “The First White President” by Ta-Nehisi Coates and for showing a video of a spoken word poem called “White Privilege” by Kyla Lacey in his Contemporary Issues class. Paso Robles Joint Unified School District, California Resolution passed by the school board explicitly denounces CRT and bans certain concepts from being taught, such as that “racism is racial prejudice plus power,” that individuals are “either a member of the oppressor class or the oppressed class because of race or sex,” and that the concept of meritocracy was created as a tool of oppression.
And as noted many times in this thread -- I do NOT support state legislatures passing bills "outlawing CRT". Nearly all the bills are extreme overreach and basically outlaw teaching inclusion and diversity -- as well as only allowing a narrow view of U.S. history to be taught. State legislators should leave educational curriculum and lesson plans to their state schools boards and local school districts & administrators.
You and others remind me of the kids in Tom Sawyer who to paid him to whitewash the fence, because everyone else was whitewashing the fence. Not a great analogy but .. Anyway, you are supporting part of a big lie but not taking responsibility for your part in breathing life into it.
Democrats can win the debate over critical race theory. Here’s how. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...n-debate-over-critical-race-theory-heres-how/ Democrats, beware: Glenn Youngkin’s successful campaign for governor of Virginia will serve as atemplatefor Republican candidates eager to exploit fears of critical race theory by demanding “parental control” of education. Democrats must do a better job of responding than Youngkin’s hapless opponent, Terry McAuliffe, did. The absolute worst thing you can say is what McAuliffe said: “I don’t think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.” At some level, he was right; there would be chaos if every teacher had to run every lesson plan by the parents of every student. But his comment came across as tone-deaf after parents had spent 18 months supervising their kids’ education at home — and stewing about shuttered classrooms. McAuliffe paid the price for not feeling parents’ pain. It’s also not productive to argue, as many on the left have, that critical race theory, or CRT, isn’t being taught and that raising the issue is nothing but a dog whistle to racists. It’s true that “parental control” has become the new “states’ rights” — a deceptively anodyne slogan for tapping racist fears. It’s also true that even those who are most hysterical about CRT have trouble defining it. Fox News host Tucker Carlson just admitted: “I’ve never figured out what ‘critical race theory’ is, to be totally honest, after a year of talking about it.” But as a practical, political issue, none of that matters. CRT might have started off as an esoteric academic theory about structural racism. But it has now become a generic term for widely publicized excesses in diversity education, such as disparaging “individualism” and “objectivity” as examples of “white supremacy culture” or teaching first-graders about microaggressions and structural racism. You don’t have to be a Republican to be put off by the incessant attention on race in so many classrooms. George Packer wrote in the Atlantic in October 2019 that he knew “several mixed-race families” that transferred their kids out of a New York City school that “had taken to dividing their students by race into consciousness-raising ‘affinity groups.’” Packer spoke for many liberal parents when he protested the tendency to make “race, which is a dubious and sinister social construct, an essence that defines individuals regardless of agency or circumstance.” As an example, he cited Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) saying, “We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice; we don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.” This is the kind of “stupid wokeness” that Democratic strategist James Carville blamed for his party’s setbacks in Virginia and New Jersey — and it is something that Democrats need to disavow if they want to win outside of deep-blue enclaves. Democrats should admit that, even as racism remains a pervasive problem, some efforts to combat it backfire if they exacerbate racial divisions or stigmatize White students. But while acknowledging some conservative concerns as legitimate, Democrats also need to call out the GOP’s cynical and destructive use of the CRT issue. Just as an earlier generation of liberals protested all the lives Joseph McCarthy was destroying in the name of anti-communism, liberals today need to focus on the collateral damage that Republicans inflict in the name of fighting CRT: They are trying to ban books and fire educators. In short, they are practicing the very “cancel culture” they decry. Seven states have outlawed teaching CRT, and 13 others are considering such bills. These laws have provoked opposition even from staunch conservatives, such as David French, who worry about the chilling effect on speech. French lives in a Tennessee county where right-wing activists are trying to use an anti-CRT law to purge from the curriculum books about the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. and Ruby Bridges. They even take issue with Normal Rockwell’s painting “The Problem We All Live With,” which shows Bridges being escorted to her New Orleans elementary school in 1960 by federal marshals enforcing desegregation. The chairman of the Texas House Committee on General Investigating demanded on Oct. 25 that schools in that state report whether they stock any books “that might make students feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress because of their race or sex” — and included 850 examples of such suspect works. In Southlake, Tex., an anti-CRT law was even invoked by a school administrator who instructed teachers to offer an “opposing” perspective on the Holocaust. What would that be — neo-Nazism? James Whitfield, the first Black principal of a high school in Colleyville, Tex., is in the process of being fired. His apparent offense was writing, after the George Floyd murder, that systemic racism was “alive and well” and asking students and parents to be “anti-racist.” (The school district denies that CRT was a factor in its decision.) In Blountville, Tenn., a teacher was fired in part for assigning an article by Ta-Nehisi Coates arguing that Donald Trump was elected by harnessing white grievances. Conservatives argue that CRT, with its focus on group identity, is un-American. But what’s more un-American than attempting to ban books and fire teachers for their views? That’s what happens in China. Democrats can win the CRT debate if they call out the illiberal excesses of both the woke left and the anti-woke right.