Credit Trading, newcomer questions, rant...

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Vitali, Jul 5, 2005.

  1. Hello:
    I don't want to be impolite. I know you want to find help. I am going to suggest something you won't like. Naturally you can disregard it.

    You're in a part of the business that is populated by pros who have been doing it (trading) for a while. They have several advantages over you including a commish structure better than yours. Doing the small volume you are stating you wont be around long, because they (Swift) will let you go. You need to find a successful rebate trader in your firm or in another firm right away. Offer to pay them to show you how it is done. Be prepared to have to re-learn a lot of what you think your doing right. In your place, I would start to make contacts outside Swift right away. I would say your window is about 3-4 months max. I know a guy who used to rebate trade and what he did was to stand outside a pro office and wait for guys to come out for a smoke. He made friends with one of them and eventually worked his way into the business. Took him a while, but he got there.

    I am sorry I can't be more constructive.

    Steve
     
    #21     Jul 5, 2005
  2. Vitali

    Vitali

    I dont work for Swift Trade, this firm usually doesnt hire recent grads without experience, but they decided to do it this time. So they hired 3 grads, including me, (as an experiement I guess) and now all 3 of us are sitting there struggling to break even. Since they have no training structure what so ever, they basically set us up with a desk and told us to keep it conservative to a 100 shares in order not to loose too much as we are learning.
    Yet after reading 3 books our boss recommended, I am still not doing that much better.
    And whats with the commision structure? The guys at my firm keep saying that 45% is a good commision for traders...is it not?
     
    #22     Jul 5, 2005
  3. Firms I know of include

    White Cap
    Avidus
    Bear
    Golden Market
    Genesis
    Alliance

    If I remember correctly, these are a few of the firms that might be sources of reference or places to make friends. Because things change rapidly in this industry, I have no way of saying whether these firms are the "good guys" or not.

    Again I suggest you start to network right away. Ask about fees and indicate your interest and you might be surprised at what people will volunteer if you seem to be a good guy. Use google or the search function at the top right hand of the ET home page.


    Good luck,
    Steve
     
    #23     Jul 5, 2005
  4. Avidus offered me 0.004 in commission, 10-1 leverage, a $100mth
    charge plus/minues ECN's. Problem is I never heard of them before. Can anyone here shine some light on Avidus?
     
    #24     Sep 13, 2005