Credit Suisse Implodes, UBS Takes Over

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by VicBee, Mar 20, 2023.

  1. VicBee

    VicBee

    "Holders of AT1s knew they were buying high-yield risk with a hand grenade attached to it, according to John McClain, portfolio manager at Brandywine Global Investment Management.

    “It’s absolutely the right thing to do to prevent moral hazard from creeping into that part of the market,” he said. “Those bonds were created for moments like this. Similar to catastrophe bonds.”
     
    #11     Mar 20, 2023
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  2. Youve missed the point. Big European banks Bonds are no longer rock solid collateral and will be questioned as to safe haven products. The Banks that are counterparty and do close business with UBS are now questioned heavily.
     
    #12     Mar 20, 2023
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  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    What’s the rationale for paying shareholders and not AT1 holders?


     
    #13     Mar 20, 2023
  4. VicBee

    VicBee

    I haven't missed anything, I'm just quoting the article which answered the dismay.
    Apparently, these AT1 bonds were expressedly issued to be the fuse in the unlikely case of a bank's short circuit. It was written in the small prints.
     
    #14     Mar 20, 2023
  5. M.W.

    M.W.

    This is just one of the differing interpretations and going before courts. The trigger is at the heart of the issue.

     
    #15     Mar 20, 2023
  6. VicBee

    VicBee

    I see. I haven't read that this was going before the courts.
     
    #16     Mar 20, 2023
  7. M.W.

    M.W.

    It will shortly. Bond holders will meet tomorrow to decide on this.

     
    #17     Mar 21, 2023
  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #18     Mar 21, 2023
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  9. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    CS, just like UBS, is in SMI index. Another bank prolly gets to step up to the big time.
     
    #19     Mar 21, 2023
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    #20     Mar 22, 2023