Crazy paper trading day

Discussion in 'Trading' started by farmerjohn1324, Jan 6, 2023.

  1. That's what I'm figuring out.
     
    #51     Jan 7, 2023
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  2. How did you become a millionaire?

    Unless it was by luck or inheritance, why not keep doing that?

    Plenty of millionaires and billionaires who lost their fortune by attempting to trade. In Norway there's at least two who did exactly that. One had little to none experience with trading and the other actually was a seasoned trader.

    Short term trading ES futures profitably is probably one of the hardest way in the world to make a buck.
     
    #52     Jan 7, 2023
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  3. Because it's not enjoyable anymore. Managing multiple construction projects at once is a constant pain in the a$$.
     
    #53     Jan 7, 2023
  4. I hear you. I have a background in construction myself.

    Trading can be a pain in the a$$ as well. :)
     
    #54     Jan 7, 2023
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  5. Bad_Badness

    Bad_Badness

    At the risk of being overly generous, it is paper.
    • It is not like he is trading crazy (his description) for months.
    • Everyone tests the limits to see what is possible and see what they SHOULD not do.
    • He can "afford" to have a 6-digit loss. It would hurt, but he can return to try again.
    A lot of really successful traders have blown up, several times. To me being too paranoid about blowing up, was not good. It crippled my ability to take reasonable-measured risks. And, of course, that is what we do, take risk.

    Lastly, who knows, maybe this is his path. Just as trading styles differ, so does everyone's path in trading. Sometimes people have to learn for themselves, several times often, before they can really live the lessons. Is there not some old saying that "failure is the mother of invention"

    Best of luck

    PS: all that being said, it seems he has a way to go... But he is doing it :fistbump:
     
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    #55     Jan 7, 2023
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  6. Thanks. And I've already failed many times with real money between 2019-2022 before I decided to stick to ES only. Most times after failing, I swore off trading "for good" only to come back to it after a few months.
     
    #56     Jan 7, 2023
  7. Hello farmerjohn1324,

    Yes sir, this is how it is done man.

    Good work.
     
    #57     Jan 7, 2023
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  8. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    If that were the case ... everyone would be doing it.

    Which in turn would make it ... not the case.
     
    #58     Jan 7, 2023
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  9. spy

    spy

    This is basically what I've been posting on this thread from the beginning but he got mad at me because I said it with some hyperbole and authority. You sugar coat it and get a new but-buddy... go figure.

    I suspect @farmerjohn1324 is just not that confident and needs a pat on the back. But, not being confident is a big problem. And, unfortunately, no one has mentioned the means by which he can gain such confidence (e.g. tests of statistical significance).

    So, if you think you can pull it off @farmerjohn1324 go for it. But just don't come back here crying if you lose tons of money. You were advised by many people it's not easy and that you should probably wade, rather than dive, in.

    There are professionals just waiting to take money from so-called "whales". The challenge is to become professional and participate in a mutually beneficial manner. And, there's no magic secret to that... just years and years of hard work.

    I think it was in "Reminiscences of a Stock Operator" where I read that trading is one of the hardest ways to make an easy living one can imagine. There's certainly truth to that. Switching careers after already becoming a millionaire just doesn't sound wise to a lot of people.
     
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    #59     Jan 7, 2023
  10. Then how did I do it reliably on Schwab?
     
    #60     Jan 7, 2023