The shill gambit works as an attack because a conflict of interest[1] can cause serious problems when addressing scientific/technical issues, where both lives and massive amounts of money can be at stake. In many cases, conflict of interest has caused problems in the past, notably when medical trials go awry because data was covered up to save face and/or money. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Shill_gambit Anyway this is far more interesting, you trying to post and post so gentle reader will never find and open this link 48 hour live broadcast about Ivermectin Guests,doctors from around the world speak positive things about applying treatment of Ivermectin against Covid-19 https://www.twitch.tv/mohitx7
The best the Ivermectin pimps in this thread can come up with is videos by fraudsters posted in Twitch and other questionable locations that promote conspiracy nonsense. LOL
I'm just speaking generally here: You're correct, until readers are asked to 'trust' some or all of the conclusions/data. If trust is a factor, then the credibility of the source is also a valid factor.
You can't trust WHO because they are no longer credible. Would rather trust the frontline doctors and physicians who conducted their trials and showed that Ivermectin is very effective.
Van_der_Voort_4, The problem you have at this forum is your credibility when you continue to post bullshit lies. You've recently said "gwb and WRB are posting non-stop". Seriously, I do not post non-stop in this thread and has been watching the Olympics most of the time, other time have been working out on the lake (rowing), repairing my shed that stores my camping equipment etc... My point, the issue I have with you is your false bullshit not just in this thread but in many other threads prior to this thread when you make statements like that...calling people shills of BIG PHARMA while you are at the same time are in fact promoting a drug called Ivermectin. Some would call that hypocrisy. Seriously, many of us have been here many many years and we have NEVER posted a single message to shill a specific pharmaceutical company, medical treatment, medical drug prior to the Pandemic nor during the Pandemic. In contrast, some of us have talked about preventive medicine as in natural remedies and vitamins in a few message posts. Simply, a shill of BIG PHARMA doesn't join a trading forum and lay silent +10 years waiting for a Pandemic to start shilling pharmaceutical products. You're consistency in calling us shills...at least stop being stupid and name the pharmaceutical products that we're promoting or identify the threads that we've started about any specific pharmaceutical products. I will not hold my breath because there are none. By the way, my earlier message post in this thread, I specifically stated its your choice to take Ivermectin but its not an approved medical drug for treating Covid. My issue in this thread is your attack on vaccines especially when you attempted to use a survey of Physicians to prove your point. You pretended it represented the ENTIRE medical industry. In contrast, I've posted several studies (that's plural) of different medical professions with their summaries and links (sources) for anyone to read along with stating the listed medical groups are only a small percentage in the final report... AMA has more survey data...not yet released for the public. Simply, what happened to the other medical groups that were not listed in one survey and I did give a list of the missing medical groups. You're welcome to debate about the growing data list when its released by the AMA near year-end but it will not be in this thread that you're actively promoting about Ivermectin. If I wanted to hide anything...I would have simply removed the links with the pretty graphs. One thing I do not do is bash studies or surveys / studies because its pointless considering the other side can easily post surveys / studies that show the opposite as I've done in this thread to show that Physicians, Nurses, Healthcare Workers, and Dentists (one state California) are being vaccinated in greater numbers than those Physicians not vaccinated. Just as importantly, I notice you're not bitching about the other surveys of different medical groups, Nurses, Dentist and I have many more to post but I'm going to wait for more surveys to be released as more people, doctors, nurses, and healthcare workers get vaccinated. Therefore, as I have continually stated...I will post more links at a later date when there's more data. I will say this...don't get your panties pulled up in hoping that medical professions that do not want to be vaccinated will outnumber those that do want to get vaccinated. So far, it's not even a close competition within the medical profession of France, Canada, and the United States...maybe it's much closer in your country but not in the three countries I've listed. Once again, I did not say I will post links NON-STOP. That's some bullshit lie that you've created like some kid having a temper tantrum. In fact, I stated I will post more links by year-end when the surveys reach all the members of the AMA instead of the current tiny percentage. There's no explanation the AMA posted a vaccination survey early in the vaccination distribution process. Analogy, it's like posting a final report of the Olympic Games results on Day 1 of the Olympic Games. Regardless, I don't work at the AMA, you'll have to ask them why. I will say this, those particular professions the AMA showed in their survey...they have now reached 1700 members that have been vaccinated (answered the survey) in comparison to that particular early final report of 301 members. As I promised, when the info becomes public, I will post the links and you're more than welcome to analyze the information at the links. For transparency, not discussed in your survey nor discussed in my surveys (plural) are questions involved with employment pressure... For example, did they get vaccinated due to their employer telling the Doctors, Nurses, Healthcare Workers (HWs), Dentists they are required to get vaccinated or be fired ??? This is an important question because my sister (a head nurse in an ER / ICU) was fully vaccinated before her Hospital employer made it mandatory that all medical personnel must be vaccinated unless they have verified underlying medical condition that the vaccine can put their life in jeopardy...so far...nobody at her hospital has contested that employment mandate. Just the same, those not vaccinated...is it because of medical reasons (underlying medical conditions) / religious reasons ??? This is an important question. For example, a Doctor that recently Simply, I view all the surveys as incomplete with many missing questions considering it's only just a questionnaire without verification medical personnel was in fact vaccinated or did not take the vaccine. I'm being transparent...you should try doing the same to prevent us from thinking you're just a DICK. P.S. In a few days, I will post another survey of Canada's Nurses (sample size of many thousands of Nurses across one of Canada's biggest provinces)...those vaccinated greatly outnumber those not vaccinated. As always, I will be transparent and you're welcome to bitch about that survey too. Once again, these surveys (including yours that were posted) are too early in the vaccination process. Gotta go and watch 3 hours of Olympic Rowing on TV. wrbtrader
This morning i took you off ignore,i thought you would not admit that the number of vaccinated doctors in that survey is far off what you wrote. I was expecting you would say: " Van der whatever you don't know what you talking about " Just like certain liar that is still working in the government The kool-aid drinkers already got the shots. The rest of us will be difficult to lure into the trap. World Ivermectin Day: North America Panel https://trialsitenews.com/world-ivermectin-day-north-america-panel/ Edit:Cuddles thank you for your endorsement!
if you want to push ivermectin, use legit sources, not some website that showed up last week. In any case, it's dumb to take ivermectin instead of a vaccine, but treatment options should be explored regardless. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57570377 https://www.forbes.com/sites/robert...-uk-as-a-potential-treatment/?sh=74a265f6b308 https://www.cnet.com/news/can-ivermectin-be-used-to-treat-covid-19-what-you-should-know/