You're just completely full of shit and have a massive amount of delusion. You have no idea how to address statistics at all.
You are just completely full of shit and have a massive hypochondriac syndrome. You are unable to deal with reality.
That's why you ignore Sweden's charts vs anywhere really, lockdown slightly slows spread, so slight there is no point, just because you don't like reality and you prefer the fantasy of we can avoid jt via Lockdowns doesn't make it true. As UK 0.07% with made up deaths and 90% old people with weeks to live, your scared side has done no good at all and so very much damage which you ignore, we'd of all been better off ignoring it, including the dying cause they wouldn't of had to of suffered and died alone, with quarantine bullshit Its over hyped to scare you by a factor of 50 ffs learn this!
They do not see the pattern or the rabbit hole they've intentionally put themselves within. They live in a different country and continue posting about Sweden (a country they do not reside within) and then bitch and whine about what's going on in their own country that's not Sweden in a thread about some other topic... This thread is about Fauci, in another thread it was about Pres. Trump, in another thread it was about rising death counts in New York, in another thread its about riots / protesters in the United States... That's the delusion (rabbit hole) they're stuck inside. I even tested this delusion when I intentionally started a random thread about Brazil's President becoming Covid-19 positive...guess who showed up. Strangely they talk about FEAR when in reality its them that are in FEAR about what's occurring in their own country and in love with the thought if only their country had adopted the Covid-19 approach of Sweden (lockdown lite). It's comical and delusional...stuck in the rabbit hole. Personally, I have lived in South Korea for a few years and they also did not do a lockdown. More importantly, they've handle the Covid-19 response performance much better than Sweden. Yet, I'm not delusional about wishing Canada (country of my primary residence) had adopted South Korea's healthcare system...that's one of the best healthcare systems in the world. --------- South Koreans have access to a universal healthcare safety net, although a significant portion of healthcare is privately funded. In 2015, South Korea ranked first in the OECD for healthcare access.[1] Satisfaction of healthcare has been consistently among the highest in the world – South Korea was rated as the fourth most efficient healthcare system by Bloomberg --------- One of them started a specific thread dedicated to Sweden and even made a comment to me that you're ruining my thread after I posted lots of graphs / charts / links that showed Sweden's poor response performance in the Pandemic to other countries that did not do a lockdown. That was the first sign to me that they fell down the rabbit hole about a country they do not reside within. Strangely, they abandon their the thread specifically about Sweden to spillover their delusions, FEARS, whining into other threads. Yet, I had doubts about their delusions because when they were posting in other threads like they have been posting in this thread about Fauci...it occurred when social unrest became the storyline (topic of discussion) for other threads but then they showed up again in different threats to spill more delusions that the United States had herd immunity after a few days of declines in the numbers of death. Fast forward, today, most of everything Fauci has warned about has been dead on...super spreading events, face mask wearing, socially irresponsible behaviour by people of the United States in its response to Covid-19... Now we have a National Security issue with the White House itself becoming infected possibly from some rose garden announcement about a Supreme Court new justice nominee. These delusional behaviours are starting to become laughable...no fear. wrbtrader
Why Anthony Fauci is happy being the "skunk" on the Coronavirus Task Force Anthony Fauci (right) has been an outspoken member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force. Drew Angerer/Getty Images On 23 September at 8 p.m., Anthony Fauci was standing in his living room in Washington, D.C., still in his suit and tie, chatting on his cell phone with an assistant, exasperated that his day was far from over. It had begun at 6 a.m. and included testifying at a three-hour-long Senate hearing on COVID-19. In the early evening, he spoke with actor Alan Alda about the pandemic on a live-streamed event. Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and a key scientist on the White House’s Coronavirus Task Force, still had to read and reply to more than 200 e-mails in his inbox. “I’m going to be up until 3 a.m.,” he said. Fauci, who that week appeared on the cover of Time magazine’s issue 100 most influential people of 2020, went upstairs and changed into jeans and sweatshirt. When he came down, his wife, Christine Grady—a bioethicist at the Clinical Center of the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH) --brought him an IPA beer and salmon sliders, out on their backyard deck where he sat down for an hourlong, socially distanced interview with Science. Fauci discussed everything from his relationship with President Donald Trump and the White House staff to the COVID-19 vaccines being tested by the government’s Operation Warp Speed, the Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) issued by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), and his confrontation at that day’s hearing with Sen. Rand Paul (R-PA), who has a history of needling the NIAID director. The 79-year-old Fauci, who has led NIAID since 1984 and established a reputation as a world renowned HIV/AIDS researcher, had no regrets about tangling with Paul. “I said to myself, you know, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna disrespect him, I'm not gonna be aggressive, but I'm not gonna let him get away with saying things that are cherry picked data.” This interview was edited for clarity and brevity. Q: Why aren't you afraid of speaking your mind at the White House? A: I'm walking a fine line of being someone who is not hesitant to tell the President and the Vice President what they may not want to hear. There are some people in the White House, who, even when I first started telling it like it was in the Task Force meetings, they were like, “Oh my goodness.” That’s when I got that nickname “the skunk at the picnic.” When they would strike an optimistic note, I would say, “No, wait a minute.” I used my experience with the activists during the early years of the AIDS pandemic to say, “If you really want to know what's going on, you have got to talk to the people in the trenches.” So when people were saying, “Testing is fine, everybody who wants to test can have a test,” I’d get on the phone at night and talk to the individual people who are either the assistant Health Commissioner, the Health Commissioner, or somebody who's running an ICU, from New York, Chicago, New Orleans, Seattle, and LA . I’d do that regularly, and what they were seeing in the trenches was not always what was happening in the discussions. So I bring this perspective to the Task Force and I say, “I’m sorry, I'm not trying to undermine the president. But there is something that's called reality.” When you have 70,000 [COVID-19] infections a day and that plateaus at 44,000, that's really not very good news. Some might say, “Well, you know, we should be positive since there are parts of the country that are doing well.” I do not disagree: Yes, there are parts of the country that are doing well, where the test positivity is 1% or less. But other areas are not doing well, and this country is a big forest, and when you have fires in some parts of the forest, the entire forest is at risk. Q: It's not rocket science Tony. A: The point that I sometimes make is the analogy of crew racing. I never knew anything about crew, until my daughter became one of the captains of the Stanford varsity team a few years ago. And then I decided I'd learn about the subtleties of it. Unless every one of those eight people, the ninth person being the coxswain, is doing it exactly the way you should be doing it, you will never win the race. You need one person, sometimes two, God forbid, who are out of sync and you are done. You've lost the race. Everyone has got to work together.And that is a concept that I try very hard to get across. Debbie [Birx, a scientist on the Task Force] is constantly out in the field now and she’s absolutely seeing that in spades: When you get an increase in test positivity, it predicts there is going to be a surge of infections. And then the surge gets under control when people start implementing public health measures. It's almost like whack a mole. And that doesn't work in the long run. Q: Operation Warp Speed wanted vaccines that could be mass produced quickly. But what do you think of its portfolio? The obvious missing component is the inactivated virus vaccine. That’s moved very far with China-made vaccines and now Europe is investing big time in it. A: In a perfect world, you would want to get all those platforms going. A decision was made regarding the broad effort. I wasn't the primary person in making that decision. I was and am responsible only for the NIH component of that multi-faceted effort. We do the research, and we say, these are the things we need to do. A decision was made that they were going to have an overarching process involving multiple agencies of the federal government. It wasn't completely in my hands. The one thing that I'm glad happened, because we were pushing for that, was to get a broader portfolio, a wide range of vaccine platforms including the more traditional one of recombinant proteins with an adjuvant. Q: Most COVID-19 vaccines being tested in the United States only contain versions of the viral surface protein, spike. The inactivated virus vaccines have all the viral proteins. What do you think about broadening to include more viral components? A: You know, it's an interesting psychodynamic, saying we are in this catastrophic outbreak and we've got to move as quickly as we possibly can. We’re relying on the companies that come forth and say, we're willing to make an investment in this approach. There was an emphasis on needing to do something about it right now, right away, because that's the only thing you have, as opposed to approaches with other diseases where there was less of an emergency nature to the process. Other antigens besides the spike likely will be pursued in the second generation of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. Q: The EUA situation raises an interesting problem. The way convalescent plasma was approved for an EUA combined with the EUA of hydroxychloroquine is tied together with confidence in the vaccine dropping. A: I understand the need for and importance of EUAs, but I have long been of the opinion that the gold standard of determining conclusively if an intervention is safe and effective is conducting a randomized controlled clinical trial. An EUA is based on the principle that the benefit outweighs the risk in a situation where there is a reason to believe that the intervention may be effective. I am all for that--this can get life-saving interventions out quickly for people who need it. But this should only be done in a situation that doesn’t interfere with the process of ultimately proving whether that intervention is truly safe and effective. For convalescent plasma, an EUA was issued, and I hope that when the clinical trials are completed, we get a definitive answer. Q: Convalescent plasma didn't work in Ebola. A: Yes, exactly. And Cliff [Lane, a deputy director of NIAID] did a study in Southeast Asia, and convalescent plasma didn't work in influenza. Q: And the data for convalescent plasma against COVID-19 are really soft. A: One of the things that I learned, and that's the fun of continuing to learn as you get older and older, is the sophistication of modern-day statistics. When you examine something in a post hoc analysis of a non-pre-determined endpoint, boy, can you be led down the garden path. We used to kid around saying if you torture the data enough, it's going to ultimately tell you what you want it to tell you. Q: I know it's late for you in a very long day. And you also had a wonderful interchange with “Senator Rand.” [Fauci mistakenly said “Senator Rand” at the hearing.] You feel good about it? A: I do. I was born and raised on the streets of New York, but I'm a creature of Washington, and I have a great deal of respect for government institutions. Just like I have a great deal of respect for the Presidency, I have a great deal of respect for the Senate. And in that regard, I have a great deal of respect for senators. But I am not going to let Senator Paul get away with saying things that are cherry picked data. And he compared us to Sweden, and said, Sweden let everybody get infected and they have much lower death rate than us. And I say, sir, with all due respect, you're comparing apples and oranges, you should not be comparing Sweden with the United States, you should be comparing Sweden with demographically similar populations, like the Scandinavian countries such as Norway and Denmark. And Sweden has done much less well, particularly regarding deaths, compared to the other countries. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/why-anthony-fauci-happy-being-skunk-coronavirus-task-force wrbtrader
I'm not scared at all; you clearly are. All I see is massive panic from people like you; you are afraid of so many supposed negatives from lockdowns and safety precautions. The current outbreak in the UK seems quite significant. For months now, there has been some correlation between the location of the most avid deniers on this site ( and you are one of them ) and the worst outbreak areas. I don't think it's a coincidence. You are with your actions making it worse for yourself, leading to even more whining on here as you are forced into more restrictions you don't like. Blaming the messenger isn't going to help you.
No 2nd wave, merely Testing and getting around the people that came out of shielding 4 - 8 weeks ago, when they ended, as expected, hospital cases already dropping. Why is Sweden over, why isn't Sweden having a 2nd wave ?? because it's BS. Supposed Negatives, like 3Million people out of work, supposed negative, what is wrong with you.
Months into a pandemic, Fauci says the US is still lagging in Covid-19 testing By Christina Maxouris, CNN Updated 4:54 AM ET, Tue October 6, 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/health/us-coronavirus-tuesday/index.html (CNN)Months into the pandemic and ahead of what experts say could be a difficult winter season, the US remains behind when it comes to Covid-19 testing, Dr. Anthony Fauci says. "We're better off now than we were a couple of months ago, that's for sure," Fauci told CNN's Chris Cuomo Monday night. But the country is still not where it needs to be, he said. In the battle against the virus, experts have continually stressed how testing is critical. When done right, it can help health officials identify infections quickly and place those individuals in isolation before more people become infected. It can also give local leaders an idea of the level of infection within a community. White House's inept 'contact tracing' effort leaves the work to others "We need to flood the system with testing," Fauci said. The US has conducted more than 107 million tests since the pandemic began. More than 210,000 Americans have died and there have been more than 7.4 million recorded infections -- but the number of true infections is likely far greater than that, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has said. And that's likely because of the lack of testing in the first months of the pandemic, experts say. Several states hit record-highs Overall cases in the US are on the rise. The country reported more than 50,000 daily cases on Friday and Saturday. The last time the US saw more than 50,000 cases back to back was mid-August. According to data from Johns Hopkins University, at least 22 states are reporting more new cases than the previous week, with many across the Midwest and now increasingly in the Northeast. Only four states are reporting a decline -- Hawaii, Kansas, Missouri and South Carolina.The rest are holding steady. Several states have also reported record-highs in recent days. In the past days, several states reported record high numbers. Alaska, Indiana, Kentucky and Montana reported their highest 7-day averages for new daily cases over the weekend, according to data from Johns Hopkins University. Alaska is reporting more than 40% more new cases than the previous week. In Kentucky, where Gov. Andy Beshear last week raised alarm about "escalating" cases and urged residents to be on guard, he announced Monday the state will be stepping up mask enforcement. "We need to make sure that everybody out there is getting back to the place where, in your business, you cannot check somebody out if they are not wearing a mask, it shouldn't matter who they are," he said Monday. In Wisconsin, new cases are averaging at about 2,400 daily -- the third highest in the country behind Texas and California. That's up 15% from what the state was averaging in the previous week. What happens when measures are relaxed A new study that analyzed Covid-19 data from all 50 states and DC found lockdowns helped slow transmission of Covid-19, but loosened restrictions let the virus spread again. "Essentially the moment those restrictions were released, those trends reversed," Dr. Mark Siedner, an investigator in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Massachusetts General Hospital, who led the research team, said in a statement. Experts have said that a second lockdown isn't necessary to get the virus under control: strong safety measures like universal face masks, social distancing and hand washing could be nearly just as impactful. And Fauci warned last month that communities across the country should double down on those measures as a potentially challenging season approaches. But those measures remain a point of contention: many Americans have protested the use of masks and despite repeated warnings by state leaders, in some parts of the country large gatherings have continued. Vaccine could be deemed safe next month, Fauci says It's likely US health officials will know whether a Covid-19 vaccine is safe and effective as early as next month, Fauci said Monday. "I think comfortably around November or December, we'll know whether or not the vaccine is safe and effective," he said. There are currently 10 Covid-19 vaccine candidates in late-stage, large clinical trials around the world, according to the World Health Organization. Several of those are in the US and at least two have been in Phase 3 trials since late July. And once a vaccine is deemed safe and effective, it's likely companies will already have doses to begin distributing, Fauci said. "There will be vaccines available, likely, for some people, limited amount, by the end of this calendar year, the beginning of 2021," Fauci predicted. Experts including Fauci say healthcare workers and people with underlying health conditions will likely take priority for vaccinations. CNN's Amanda Watts, Shelby Lin Erdman and Tina Burnside contributed to this report. wrbtrader
First the good news: The ~30% of the people prancing around without masks and going to Trump rallies is about all that's needed to keep the virus alive. Our JACKASS president is certainly doing his part to efficiently spread the virus. And so, most of the new infections will be among the Trump faithful, as will a disproportionate number of the deaths. Now the bad news. Everyone acting responsibly, wearing masks consistently and washing their hands often, will have to go on doing this for an additional few months because of the jackass ~30%.
Virus's spread so easily and masks well face coverings don't actually work so it'll spread regardless, so worrying about nothing. As Trump says in a tweet that got removed, Covid isn't that bad, we've learned to live with and ignore / accept Flu deaths, we need to stop screwing our selves over and learn to live with. UK hospital admissions doubled, at the peak they hit 25%, currently 3% of all beds accross the UK, mainly in the north which avoided the virus in wave 1.