COVID-19

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #642     Sep 20, 2020
  3. Exposing the complete insanity of the left on Covid, racism, identity politics and every other idiotic policy of leftism. Must watch.
     
    #643     Sep 20, 2020
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    pass, JoeRogan has become a useful idiot and a tool of the alt-right
     
    #644     Sep 20, 2020
  5. Of course you pass. This is kryptonite to leftists. It's called truth.
     
    #645     Sep 20, 2020
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I'm a moderate, so wouldn't know anything about that. Joe Rogan is woefully uninformed on politics as reflected by his grifter guests. There a bit of truth for ya
     
    #646     Sep 20, 2020
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Australia's coronavirus lockdown strategy worked. Could this be a model for the US?
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/21/australia/australia-coronavirus-lockdown-intl-hnk/index.html

    when Daniel Andrews, premier of the Australian state of Victoria, declared a lockdown over the coronavirus, some detractors on the right labeled him a "dictator" and said he was trying to build "a gulag."

    But Andrews -- a Labor Party politician who has run Australia's second-largest state since 2014 -- has remained popular with Victorians throughout the lockdown, local polls show. And this week, his hardline approach was thoroughly vindicated.

    On Sunday, Victoria recorded just 11 new coronavirus cases, down from over 670 at the height of the most recent outbreak last month. Next week, Melbourne will begin lifting some restrictions if new cases remain below a fortnightly average of 50 per day. A nightly curfew is slated to remain in effect until October 26.
    "We can do this," Andrews tweeted Sunday, echoing his words at the beginning of the lockdown: "We are Victorians -- and we will get through this as Victorians. With grit, with guts and together."

    And while it may have provoked outrage from some elements of the Australian media, and criticism from Prime Minister Scott Morrison, Victoria's experience shows once again that targeted lockdowns are effective in containing the coronavirus: driving down infections, relieving pressure on hospitals and medical staff, and creating space for contact tracing and mass testing.

    This was first shown in China, where the government imposed an intense lockdown on Wuhan, the city where cases of the virus were first detected late last year. Wuhan spent 76-days under lockdown, which was finally lifted as the daily caseload slowed to a trickle.

    That was back in April, and now Wuhan is basically back to normal, even able to host massive water park raves without much concern. And the model has been successfully applied to other cities across China, including the capital Beijing, suppressing new spikes as they appear and keeping national figures down.

    "The Covid-19 epidemic in our country has gone through four waves," Wu Zunyou, chief epidemiologist at the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said Saturday. "Besides the first wave (in Wuhan), the other epidemic waves were clusters that were regional and small-scale and were effectively controlled."
    For some lockdown skeptics, China's experience was easy to dismiss: the country is an authoritarian, one-party state, and its methods could not necessarily be applied in democracies.

    But the situation in Victoria proves that the lockdown strategy does work elsewhere, and that, given the proper information and reassurances, people are willing to make the sacrifices required to contain the virus.
    With the outbreak in Victoria contained, the number of cases throughout the rest of Australia has continued to trend down. On Sunday, New South Wales, which includes Sydney, reported four new cases, while Queensland state reported just one.

    New Zealand too, which on Monday began reducing social distancing regulations after daily cases dropped to zero, has seen positive results from lockdowns, enabling the country to return to relative normality far faster than nations which did not take such measures.

    Elsewhere, however, lockdown strategies have been less successful, with partial closures bringing with them the misery of a full lockdown while not actually containing infections. This could make it far more difficult to introduce further restrictions in future, such as when infections spike in winter months, as most experts believe will happen.

    There is also considerable political resistance to lockdowns, or even partial shutdowns, in some countries, particularly the United States, where last week Attorney General William Barr said a nationwide closure would be the "greatest intrusion on civil liberties" in history "other than slavery."

    Potential lockdowns have also provoked backlash in the European Union and United Kingdom in recent days, despite a spike in case numbers across the continent.

    The US, however, remains the worst hit country in the world, with more than 6.7 million coronavirus cases and almost 200,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. As those figures potentially rise through winter, and with less and less reason to go outside, some people may start to reconsider their anti-lockdown sentiment.
     
    #647     Sep 21, 2020
  8. Sorry my friend, Covid is so yesterday. We have a real threat on our hands, a seat is open on the Supreme Court and if it's filled before the election all of humanity may fall apart. Covid takes a backseat to riots for justice and now court appointees.
    Now one would think if the predictions of 200-400K more dead by years end were true that would be the priority, but nope, this court appointment and of course the riots take precedent.
    So I am left to conclude that these dire predictions of a 100K plus dead per month for the next three months is hype and the powers that be know it's hype, or political priorities are completely out of whack. More than likely both are true. We as a nation are being buried in bullshit.
     
    #648     Sep 21, 2020
  9. Yes. The covid-centric campaign is making an about face right as we speak.

    Two weeks ago, the dems were all screaming "there are going to be 100K deaths a month from covid and we are all going to die."

    Now, they are screaming: "I don't give a fuck if 1,000,000 a month die as long as Amy Conan Barrett is not appointed so we need to focus on that."

    Ahhh yes, what a difference a week makes.

    Be careful Tards, you are not all that smart.
     
    #649     Sep 21, 2020
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    "New Zealand spanked Covid so hard that they accidentally eliminated influenza"

    Southern hemisphere has record low flu cases amid Covid lockdowns
    Data offers hope as winter looms in north and raises viability of eliminating future flu pandemics
    https://www.theguardian.com/society...-offers-hope-as-winter-approaches-coronavirus

    Health systems across the southern hemisphere were bracing a few months ago for their annual surge in influenza cases, which alongside Covid-19 could have overwhelmed hospitals. They never came.

    Many countries in the southern half of the globe have instead experienced either record low levels of flu or none at all, public health specialists in Australia, New Zealand and South America have said, sparing potentially tens of thousands of lives and offering a glimmer of hope as winter approaches in the northern hemisphere.

    General practitioners in New Zealand have not detected a single influenza case since they started screening patients in June, health data shows; last year about 57% of the samples they collected were positive.

    The last flu cases detected by major hospitals in Auckland, the country’s largest city, were in April. “It’s amazing. There’s just nothing there at all. No influenza,” said Michael Baker, professor of public health at the University of Otago in Wellington.

    New Zealand’s Covid-19 rates are among the lowest in the world, but even notwithstanding the pandemic, people in the country have experienced their healthiest cold months on record. “Our excess winter mortality peak has largely disappeared,” Baker said.

    A tracking system that monitors a cohort of at least 30,000 people for influenza-like symptoms shows as few as 0.3% of New Zealanders reported coughs or fevers some weeks during their winter, a tenfold decrease on some previous years.

    The trend holds true across the Tasman Sea in Australia, where Covid-19 restrictions have also deeply dented rates of flu and other respiratory illnesses. The country recorded more than 131,000 influenza cases in the peak months of July and August last year, according to government data. Over the same period this year, there were 315.

    “Cases have fallen off a cliff since March,” said Prof Ian Barr, deputy director of the World Health Organization’s collaborating centre for reference and research on influenza, in Melbourne.

    Fewer than 40 Australians have died from influenza this year, compared to more than 950 last year, “and there haven’t been any deaths for the past three to four months”, Barr added.

    Even across South America and in South Africa, where lockdowns have been patchy or harder to enforce, and Covid-19 has spread widely and killed tens of thousands of people, flu rates have been well below historical rates or nonexistent – despite increased testing for it in the Americas, according to the Pan American Health Organisation.

    This apparent contradiction – Sars-CoV-2 growing exponentially while influenza virtually disappears – illustrates a key difference between the two viruses. The seasonal flu is not just less deadly, but significantly less virulent, Baker said.

    Populations have higher immunity to seasonal influenza, whether acquired naturally or through vaccines, while travel bans instituted from March interrupted the normal migration of the virus from the northern hemisphere to the south.

    As an unprecedented live experiment on a massive population, it could offer some good news for northern hemisphere countries heading into their own flu season, just as drier air and more time indoors are expected to drive up Covid-19 rates. Even relatively less stringent quarantines appear to be surprisingly potent at suppressing influenza and other common respiratory illnesses.

    “You would still see a flu season, but I expect it would be much less intense,” Baker said. “Northern hemisphere countries that are actively suppressing Covid-19 to some degree should get a lot of protection [from influenza] by doing that.”

    It could mean that more people are susceptible to flu strains in the years ahead, having not acquired any kind of immunity this year, Barr said, though he added the threat would significantly decrease if people kept washing their hands thoroughly and wore masks in crowded areas even after the pandemic subsides.

    In a year that will be studied by public health specialists for decades, it also points to new ways of fighting the future influenza pandemics that some scientists regard as inevitable.

    “[Before,] it was thought that when a new influenza pandemic virus arrives, all you can do is dampen it down, you can’t stop it,” he said. “We now know that if you had a pandemic flu virus of sufficient severity, you could take the elimination approach, or even the exclusion approach, as Taiwan has done with Covid-19.”
     
    #650     Sep 21, 2020