Yes... in the early days of COVID in the U.S. there were most likely 9 infections for every detected case. This is back in days where COVID testing was not widely available and many people could not get a COVID test. In recent months there are most likely 3 infections for each detected case. This is all backed by data that looked at infection level including the analysis of sewage waste from cities/towns, antibody sample testing & other methods to detect COVID infection level. The people who had asymptomatic infections also was a factor in infections not being detected for cases -- since if you don't feel sick it is unlikely you would go for a test. These are the facts which yields the 2% Case Fatality Rate in the U.S. --- but an estimated 0.55% Infection Fatality Rate in the U.S. (figures all pre-vaccine). The cases are known but the number of COVID infections only estimated. Now let's re-visit again where the U.S. is at on herd immunity. ======================== Taken from an earlier post on April 12th - https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/the-biden-covid-vaccine.352858/page-31#post-5363566 Let's walk through some basic math. Even when 50% of the U.S. adult population achieves full vaccination we are still nowhere near herd immunity. 255 Million people in the U.S. population are 18 and older (2019) out of our 328 Million population. This is 77.7% of our population. If 50% of the U.S. adult population is vaccinated; this means that 38.8% of the U.S. population is vaccinated for a total of 127.5 Million people vaccinated. However we need to take in account the percentage of the adult population who have lasting natural herd immunity from catching COVID. The U.S. has experienced 32 Million COVID cases. For each proven case there appears to be 3 infections that were not caught with testing. This implies the U.S. has experienced 128 Million cases. Of these (following population distribution) 99.5 million were in adults 18 and over. Studies have shown that only 60% of people who caught COVID have antibody levels which provide immunity after 6 months. This means that 40% of people who caught COVID are not immune. This implies that only 76.8 Million of the people who caught COVID would have natural herd immunity in the U.S. However the accounting does not stop here; approximately 50% of the adults who previously got COVID have also been vaccinated. This means that (99.5 million adults * 60% effective * 50% got vaccinated) = 29.9 million adults must be subtracted from the "natural immunity" total since they actually are on the vaccinated list. This leaves 76.8 million minus 29.9 million people for a total of 46.9 million people in the U.S. have natural immunity which will last longer than 6 months. This means that 127.5 Million adults are vaccinated plus 46.9 million people with natural immunity (not on the vaccination list). This gives 174.4 Million people in the U.S. with immunity not accounting for that vaccines only have 78% to 95% efficacy. Herd immunity for COVID will require 70% of the population (229.6 Million people) to have immunity at minimum. We currently are only at 174.4 Million people (53.2%). We are making progress but there is further to go. Also there is a concern that herd immunity for a population will require closer to 85% of a population for COVID rather than 70%. Of course this calculation does not even consider that vaccines are less effective against COVID variants and that some people who caught COVID may not immune against most variants leading to re-infections. So the bottom line - get vaccinated to help the U.S. reach herd immunity, get back to normal, and stop further sickness across society. We still need more people to get vaccinated to achieve the necessary herd immunity levels -- the sooner the better.
An interesting proposal for a change in approach in countries that have a high vaccination level... Singapore wants to stop counting Covid cases. Its roadmap could be a model for other countries https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/singapore-covid-plan-intl-hnk/index.html As countries around the Asia-Pacific region tighten restrictions once again to curb potential breakouts of the Delta coronavirus variant, Singapore has laid out a new vision for life to return to normal. The roadmap, proposed by three members of Singapore's Covid-19 task force, would scrap lockdowns and mass contact tracing and allow for a return to quarantine-free travel and the resumption of large gatherings. It would even stop counting the daily Covid cases. The proposal is a radical departure from the so-called "zero transmission" model adopted by several countries and territories -- including rival Asian business hub Hong Kong -- which have so far proved successful at avoiding large outbreaks. But this "zero transmission" model, which requires stringent, often punishing quarantine measures, will be almost impossible to maintain as new variants spread, and long term is simply not sustainable, the task force members claim. Instead, they say living with Covid can be done. "The bad news is that Covid-19 may never go away. The good news is that it is possible to live normally with it in our midst," said Singapore's Trade Minister Gan Kim Yong, Finance Minister Lawrence Wong and Health Minister Ong Ye Kung, in an op-ed in the Straits Times last week. "We can turn the pandemic into something much less threatening, like influenza, hand, foot and mouth disease, or chickenpox, and get on with our lives." It's a bold plan that could become a template for other countries looking to return to normal life and resume travel and tourism -- and offer hope for frustrated residents eager to get their lives back on track after 18 months of pandemic restrictions. How they'll do it The key for a lighter approach to the pandemic? High vaccination rates. Singapore is on track for two-thirds of its population to have received their first vaccine dose by early July, and aims to fully vaccinate that figure by August 9. "Vaccines are highly effective in reducing the risk of infection as well as transmission. Even if you are infected, vaccines will help prevent severe Covid-19 symptoms," the ministers said. As more people get vaccinated, the way Singapore monitors daily Covid-19 infection numbers will change. Following a path similar to how it tracks influenza infections, Singapore will monitor those who fall seriously sick or how many are in intensive care units. Infected people will be allowed to recover at home. "We will worry less about the health care system being overwhelmed," they said. With new, potentially more contagious variants posing a concern around the world, the minsters said booster shots may be needed in the future and suggested a "multi-year vaccination program" be established. While testing and surveillance will still be needed, they propose conducting tests in specific scenarios such as ahead of large social events, or when traveling back from abroad, rather than to track and quarantine close contacts. To do this, the ministers say faster and easier methods of testing will be rolled out as PCR tests take too long to provide results. Other methods "in the pipeline" include breathalysers that take about one to two minutes to produce results. In time, more treatments will become available for Covid-19. Already, the ministers point to therapeutics that are effective in treating the critically ill, and quicken recovery, as well as reducing severity of illness and deaths. They also say citizens will be urged to practice "social responsibility" such as good hygiene and staying away from crowds when feeling unwell to reduce transmission rates. "With vaccination, testing, treatment and social responsibility, it may mean that in the near future, when someone gets Covid-19, our response can be very different from now," the ministers said. Other countries remain cautious Singapore had been held up as a success story in controlling the virus, thanks to strict border controls, instituting quarantines and contact tracing as well as rules on social gatherings and mask wearing. It managed to contain earlier outbreaks, including a peak of cases in April last year. In May, a small cluster of cases was connected to Changi Airport employees, prompting tighter curbs. The city-state of 5.7 million people has been averaging about 18 cases a day in the past month and has recorded just 36 deaths since the pandemic started, according to Johns Hopkins University. Its new approach is a departure from other places that have been successful at managing the pandemic but have comparatively low vaccination rates and have recently reimposed tougher restrictions. Several Australian states put their capital cities -- home to around 10.2 million people -- into lockdown on Monday over concerns the Delta strain could spark significant outbreaks. Australia was celebrated for its initial response to the Covid-19 pandemic, but vaccine rates are low. Australia has fully vaccinated nearly 5% of its population, compared with more than 46% in the United States and 48% in the UK, according to Our World in Data. New Zealand said it was considering making masks compulsory at high alert levels and halted a quarantine-free travel bubble with neighboring Australia following an outbreak of the Delta variant. And financial center Hong Kong, where vaccine hesitancy is high and only 21% of the population has been fully vaccinated, announced it will suspend passenger flights from the United Kingdom from July 1, over rising cases of the Delta variant there. Meanwhile, mainland China may have administered more than 1 billion Covid-19 vaccine doses, but it is thinking about keeping its borders shut for another year. The southern city of Guangzhou, a major international travel hub, is planning on building a huge quarantine center with 5,000 rooms to house travelers and Covid-19 close contacts over fears of the Delta variant's spread, according to state-run newspaper Global Times.
Are the powers that be really interested in collecting data about vaccine side effects? Apparently not. Real question is why? Vaccine side effects are not required to be reported by OSHA (from Livestream #85) - YouTube
Why would anyone ever report vaccine side effects to OSHA.... an organization that deals with workplace safety. It is entirely the wrong organization to be reporting vaccine side effects to. What a stupid video.
You missed the point of the video. If a employer requires a employee to be vaccinated and that employee has a serious side effect that is in fact a workplace related incident which falls directly under OSHA guidelines and responsibilities. OHSA, a government agency directly responsible for overseeing workplace health and safety doesn't want the information about employees health and safety as it relates to Covid vaccine issues that result from an employer mandated policy to get vaccinated be terminated. That's a problem, a huge problem.
Yes... and many employers such as medical service providers for many years have required employees to be vaccinated for the flu and many other things. When an employee had an adverse reaction to a vaccination, such as a flu shot, required by the employer it was never reported to OSHA. The video is outright ignorant.
Mighty curious why those that push the vaccine mandates the hardest are the least interested in the side effects. Employer assigns a job to employee, employee cuts pinky finger, needs one stitch and OHSA wants a very detailed report on how it happened, why it happened, and what the employer is going to do for prevention of cut fingers. Employer is required by law to file this report. Employer mandates employee get Covid vaccine. Employee dies 2 days later from vaccine side effects. OSHA not interested in details. Not only that, they don't even want any documents at all, let's pretend it never happened. One would think that the government would want as much information, collected by as many sources, so that possible clusters could be found and preventative measures employed before a problem becomes widespread. Nope, not interested. You want to know how conspiracy theories are born? This is how.