COVID-19

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I'm glad you mention that because have you done your own Covid-19 testing about face mask wear.

    One of my teenagers did a science project involving germs / bacteria in our noses and mouth. Essentially he put sneezed, coughed, talked over petri dishes with his face mask on and then a different group of petri dishes without a face mask.

    Stored at room temperature in a closet or cabinet.

    You'll quickly on your own know if face masks have the primary purpose of preventing you from giving someone else your viral load if you were to talk, sneeze or cough.

    wrbtrader
     
    #1191     Jan 7, 2021
  2. kaizer

    kaizer

    I had been ill covid several weeks ago. The effects were: lost smell feeling, body temperature about 37.1 Celsius (36.5 is my norm). Now I’m healthy. I remember the flu 2.5 years ago when I lied on bed and stand up only to visit the toilet. After this flu covid feels like light wind. It’s my personal experience and can be (and is) different from other’s persons.
     
    #1192     Jan 7, 2021
  3. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    I'm suggesting that if Russia or China had a valid vaccine when they announced it...

    VIP people may have most likely had early access to it before the general population. That's what money can buy.

    It would be a logically explanation in comparison to there's no Covid-19 and they would know such...therefore not needing to social distance, not needing to wear face mask...able to have parties.

    Also, its not only vaccines...its also about having access to experimental cocktail of antibody treatment that the general population does not have access to...the reason why I used the early example involving Donald Trump and I forgot to mention Rudy Giuliani had VIP treatment too when he became ill from Covid-19.

    Therefore, its possible the VIP in Russia had been infected and then did not tell the public that they had been infected and did not tell the public they were treated with experimental medical treatment.

    They would also develop short term immunity from further Covid-19 infections and can live their life normally assuming they didn't have severe long term effects from the infection after recovery.

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    #1193     Jan 7, 2021
  4. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    You should then have short term immunity to Covid-19 after your recent recovery but I don't know how long your immunity will last...many different studies out there with about how long natural immunity lasts after infection.

    I survived a deadly infection the fall of 2016...life support, coma, quarantine.

    Afterwards, like you, I lost my smell and taste for about 1 1/2 years. Doctors said it may take 3 - 4 years to get it back.

    I remember when I first got my senses back, it was a full rush of odors / taste while eating sushi and drinking wine. I swear...it was like having sex for the first time...not joking.

    There's a French expression in which you're Lucky in your Unluck because you recently had Covid-19. Simply, right now you have natural immunity and don't need to panic about any vaccinations right now.

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  5. kaizer

    kaizer


    Understand, and try to explain why it is not possible. VIPs demonstrated ignorance from the very beginning, from the first lockdown in early spring 2020 in Russia. So, for validity of secret vaccine hypothesis we must admit that vaccine (or antidote) existed before pandemic announcement. And this is from conspiracy world. Moreover, at least in Russia, not only top celebrities and big business/politic persons demonstrate ignorance, but middle level celebrities too. These are people with annual income about 200 000$ - 500 000$ which is clearly not enough to rank them as ‘elite’ with access to ‘hidden vaccine’. To hide the information about vaccine/antidote is possible only in case when very limited amount of people have access to it, only ‘top of the top’.


    *** It would be a logically explanation in comparison to there's no Covid-19 and they would know such...


    Please do not confuse, ‘covid does not exist’ is not the same that ‘covid danger is overestimated’. There are covid-does-not-exist-people and I consider them like freaks from flat Earth society. But its smallish minority.

    Flu pandemic were in the past and its not only famous Spanish flu. In Soviet Union in 1978 there was flu pandemic, with much more death cases than today covid’s. The difference is soviet propaganda (and all soviet media was centralized and 100% controlled and no alternative like Internet) kept deep silence about pandemic, and now modern propaganda makes covid bogey. But my mother worked as ambulance doctor and remember it well. Doctors were disoriented and demoralized. No vaccine, no real help, people got pneumatic sequelas… but there were no lockdown and the country did not extinct.


    This is the point: despite covid exists and is dangerous disease, the real risk is overestimated and fake information is artificially formed by covid-benefiters.


    The negative effect of lockdown (for small business and employed people) overweight the positive and lobbied by big business.

    The ironic moment is that my family earned a lot from covid. I’m full time FGBL trader and obviously profited from volatility explosion. My present wife is one of the top managers of McDonalds Russia and yesterday she got annual bonus for 2020 which is 15 times (1400%) higher than 2019 bonus. Her’s bonus is linked to profit and the profit raises dramatically. But I don’t live in vacuum. I see how people suffer, lose job, lose business and are fooled by covid mind cult and that all makes my angry. I hate scum and scummers.
     
    #1195     Jan 7, 2021
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Did you get COVID-19? You may only have 90 days to stay immune
    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has a new study that looks at COVID-19 immunity.
    https://www.deseret.com/platform/amp/u-s-world/2021/1/7/22216853/covid-19-immunity-antibodies

    People who recovered from the novel coronavirus may have less than 90 days of immunity, according to a new study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    What’s going on?
    The new study looked at 156 health care workers in the U.S. who tested positive for COVID-19. The workers an antibody test one month after developing symptoms, and then another about 60 days later.
    • 94% of participants showed some sort of decline in antibodies by the time of the second test.
    • 28% experienced a significant decline.
    Why it matters
    Questions about how long antibodies last have existed since the beginning of the pandemic. For example, in October, a study showed antibodies lose power over time. Similarly, there was research in July that suggested the antibodies have a 73-day half-life, meaning half of the antibodies would die within 73 days.

    The CDC was pretty clear about what this means: “SARS-CoV-2 antibodies decline over weeks following acute infection. Negative SARS-CoV-2 serologic results do not exclude previous infection, which has significant impacts on how serologic studies are interpreted.”

    KSTP medical expert Dr. Archelle Georgiou said the significant decline in antibodies is a sign that people who recovered from COVID-19 might not be safe from the virus.
    • “The 28% had such a large drop in their antibody levels by 60 days, it would be highly unlikely that they would be protected from getting reinfected,” Georgiou said. “I absolutely think people should let go of the belief that you’re safe in terms of being reinfected or reinfecting others just because you’ve already had COVID-19.”
     
    #1196     Jan 7, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    New CDC data shows nearly 60% of COVID-19 transmissions come from those with no symptoms
    https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/ne...ns-come-from-those-with-no-symptoms/19462398/


    New data from the CDC shows more than half of COVID-19 transmissions come from people who don’t even know they have it.

    A new model shows that 59% of all transferals come from asymptomatic carriers. That includes 35% of people who were pre-symptomatic and 24% who never developed any symptoms.

    “It’s really a signal that someone’s immune system has not yet responded to the virus entering the body, that’s one possibility,” says UNC Dr. Alexa Mieses Malchuk. “It could be that the person who was tested has not yet developed symptoms the other possibility is that the persons immune system response to the virus a little bit differently and may never develop symptoms whatsoever.”

    Experts tell us asymptomatic spread is one of the biggest challenges when trying to slow the spread.

    Duke infectious disease expert Dr. Cameron Wolfe says this data serves as a reminder that we all need to follow the advice of the medical community.

    “That is the reason why masks and distancing is so important,” Wolfe said. “You cannot rely on your own symptoms to base your decisions.”

    Wolfe stressed the importance of sticking to what works, washing your hands, wearing a mask and keeping your distance. He also posed a reminder that there aren’t any shortcuts to getting through this.

    “You can’t test your way out of this problem,” Wolfe said. “We’re all fatigued. Heck, no one is immune to that, but we’ve got to keep pushing that line and this asymptomatic data really proves that point. We’ve got to do better.”

     
    #1197     Jan 8, 2021
  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Yeah, I saw that report too...very scary. It's scary because so many people are not social distancing, not wearing a face mask or wearing one inappropriately, not washing hands while socializing with someone that's seems healthy, no symptoms or maybe just a mild cold / cough / sniffles / headache...

    Not knowing in some ways...that person may kill them or make them so ill that it results in hospitalization without knowing it. :(

    wrbtrader
     
    #1198     Jan 8, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    COVID-19 symptoms can linger at least 6 months, Wuhan study finds
    Fatigue, weakness and anxiety remain for many of the earliest patients hospitalized with COVID-19.
    https://www.today.com/health/covid-19-symptoms-can-linger-least-6-months-wuhan-study-t205432

    Symptoms of COVID-19 may linger for up to six months, according to research published Friday in the medical journal The Lancet, which looked at some of the first people to be hospitalized with the disease.

    The study focused on 1,733 people who were hospitalized with COVID-19 in Wuhan, China — where the coronavirus was first detected — from last January to May. Many were hospitalized before the illness even had a name.

    Roughly three-quarters of the patients reported lingering symptoms six months after their initial diagnosis. Sixty-three percent said they still had fatigue or muscle weakness, 23 percent cited anxiety or depression, and 26 percent reported trouble sleeping.

    "Our analysis indicates that most patients continue to live with at least some of the effects of the virus after leaving hospital, and highlights a need for post-discharge care," Dr. Bin Cao, an author of the study and vice director of the Center for Respiratory Diseases at China-Japan Friendship Hospital in Beijing, said in a statement.

    This was an observational study, however, meaning it is impossible to link those symptoms directly to the coronavirus. In order to show a true connection, studies would need to compare outcomes of COVID-19 to those hospitalized with similar infections that could also cause pneumonia.

    "I would have liked to have seen data on patients admitted with something other than COVID-19 during that period," said Dr. Hana El Sahly, an associate professor of molecular virology and microbiology and of medicine at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. She was not involved in the new research.

    "Being admitted with pneumonia can be a traumatic event for anyone," El Sahly said, adding that it's not uncommon for those patients to have lingering symptoms.

    The study also found that those with the most severe cases still had trouble breathing six months later. More than half who required a ventilator for their illness later experienced a condition that reduces oxygen flow from the lungs into the bloodstream. And they were more likely to struggle to complete a test of walking endurance.

    But it is unclear whether that impaired lung function is a result of the virus or related to an underlying health condition. While the study participants were all hospitalized, few were admitted to the intensive care unit, meaning the findings may not apply to the sickest patients.

    "Because COVID-19 is such a new disease, we are only beginning to understand some of its long-term effects on patients' health," Cao said. He added that the research may serve to highlight a need for increased care for COVID-19 patients even after they are discharged from the hospital.
     
    #1199     Jan 9, 2021
  10. kaizer

    kaizer

    When any kind of dangerous virus is active, including covid, one should

    Always: wash hands, intake excessive doze of vitamin C (2-3 times comparing to normal), listen to recommendations of healthcare/medical people (aka professionals)

    Never: wear mask (hits immune system, useless against viruses), panic (hits immune system), take excessive amount of fat food and alcohol (always good to follow), listen to mass media and politics (aka dilatants).
     
    #1200     Jan 9, 2021