He is living in his own dreamworld and ignores any real facts that don't fit in that world. No matter how hard you can proof your points he will always find an explanation why you are wrong and he is right.
Hard to believe someone could be this stupid. Apparently the best cure for someone who can't breathe because of a viral infection is to put a plastic bag over their head and starve the little suckers for oxygen, right! Because apparently he thinks viruses are little creatures that consume oxygen?
Yep----NYC is likely at herd immunity and may have been for some time. Sweden also is very likely to have reached herd immunity.
So has UK, without Herd / High numbers the new cases and deaths would remain at the highs, the peak is likely 30% infected why the numbers start coming down, less and less people to catch it and then pass it on. AntiBody tests are sadly useless, so can't prove this so everyone is stuck on stupid worst case. It's a fast spreading virus, which is the issue then they contradict themselves going only 5% have had it, to keep the fear alive and what ever the plan is I still can't work out, just stupid!! Deaths / Cases will just dwindle to near 100% of the populations had it which going from 90% to 99% will take ages sadly.
Your so called immunity is fake. Read these articles. I posted the essential parts of each article. https://abcnews.go.com/US/vaccine-reach-herd-immunity-scientists/story?id=71662733 The United Kingdom, Sweden and Brazil have each allowed herd immunity to inform their approaches to COVID-19 in one way or another -- with severe consequences. Only 6.1% of Sweden's population developed coronavirus antibodies by late May -- a number much lower than predicted. This study shows that even though Spain was one of the countries hardest hit by the virus, the presence of antibodies is still only around 5%, which is not high enough to achieve herd immunity. Brazil has fared no better with the second highest number of coronavirus cases in the world. Most experts say that herd immunity requires at least 60-70% of the population to have antibodies, though this number varies depending on the virus. https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...d/news-story/3989556c1eb049024c53244e5d3b236a Sweden: The study, carried out by the country’s Public Health Agency, found that just 6.1 per cent of the country’s population had developed coronavirus antibodies by late May. This figure falls far short of Dr Tegnell’s prediction.
You will get to the point that these herd immunity folks at trader forums are not the brightest campers. They will argue it can be done without a vaccine even though herd immunity has never been accomplish without a vaccine because no government was willing to kill off millions of its citizens to achieve herd immunity without a vaccine. I wouldn't post any more links / graphs with facts for them because they really just ignore it, have a temper tantrum, resort to profanity in retaliation or public announce they're leaving the forum because of the facts that you've been posting. At some point, you just got to let these people be ignorant and hopefully they can survive their ignorance during a Pandemic. wrbtrader
Yeah that herd immunity thing sure worked great with polio and smallpox and Dengue and Malaria and.... not to mention the percentages of native American populations killed by novel viruses when they were first exposed. Although I think it did eventually work with bubonic plague in a manner of speaking. After it killed 60% of Europe's population in several outbreaks only those few with some natural immunity remained in the herd! Clearly @Turveyd and friends aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. The sad thing is the whole Dunning Kruger effect they've got going on so that they don't realize that they're no only complete morons but that they're also not accomplishing anything with this idiotic ranting of theirs.
No it's the disrespectful way you talk / ignore people and just go on repeat while proving no evidence or even logic. They'll announce Herd sooner or later then you can eat your words, small studies in NYC 63% and 58% 2 weeks back and antibody tests are useless so likely higher, in the mean time keep following the herd and stay scared. P.s. don't trash this thread like all the others!
Stay on topic and if you've forgotten the theme of the thread...its posted below for you. By the way, I've started my own topics about Covid-19. Do you remember the one about Brazil president and his inept response to the native Brazilians ? You did invade that thread with your nonsense in my thread. The good thing, you soon disappeared but have now return back to another persons thread (this one). P.S. I highly recommend you start your own topic / thread on Covid-19. Nobody will post there with any graphs or links that represent the facts. wrbtrader ---------- So, six months ago, the scare began -- and the sciency skeptics were like, "Errrm -- where's the (full) data? We need data. You're publicizing numbers and percentages that you *know* to be incomplete -- and when The Boy Who Cries 'Wolf!' (or who closes down whole economies) gets bloodied by the actual (viral) wolf, .... ... and so, to look around the world, those who responded logically have done fairly well, while those who chose not to respond at all, have been bloodied. BUT IN THIS MORNING'S HEADLINES!! • A nearly instantaneous "breathilizer" has performed well in field tests. • Two promising vaccine trials are underway and *months* ahead of optimistic schedules. but the coup de grace: • "Face masks have been shown to reduce the spread of the virus, and we need our businesses to stay open, our schools to reopen, our economy to reopen -- and the data show that the way to avoid another shutdown is to wear a face mask." [paraphrased from somewhere..., despite the fact that the Surgeon General put out the same basic message a month ago, it's now accompanied by the phrase sought six months ago, "the data show..." Not to be glib at all, but that's it -- that's the climax -- it's all denouement from here. Is this priced into the market? I think so. Which means that contributory "good news" will show little market effect, but confidence-sapping "bad news" (like a morphing virus) would have immediate downside effect. Is this priced into the (U.S.) electorate? Not by a long shot. Which means that the effect on unemployment, and the growing likelihood of structural employment shocks of long duration, and the attendant effect on U.S. disposable income, on spending, on re-investment, on durables, (and even later) on housing.... Ewwwwww. Solution(s)?? Sure. Let's have the next generation take the hit. They never complain. Hell -- they're not even born yet. "Pffff!" So, two denouements -- one short term (through November), and the other going out some years??? You got it, Clyde.