COVID-19: How government brainwashed GWB and others

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ids, Dec 26, 2022.

  1. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Just as important, we had a Pandemic policy that was thrown out the window by the Trump/Pence Administration prior to the Pandemic.

    They then had to scramble to create a new Pandemic policy for the Covid Pandemic in which most of which was later adopted by the Biden/Harris Administration as they learned more about Covid...

    Publicly the Biden/Harris Administration stated they started from scratch when in reality we still had almost the same key individuals as the Trump/Pence Administration managing our public health policies.

    Lets put it this way, when parts of the world were burning Covid dead in the streets (e.g. India and Brazil) or piling up bodies in the streets (e.g. Italy, Germany and France) to later be trucked away like cargo...

    The United States was in denial including many members here at Elitetrader.com when you see them write its a HOAX, nobody died in my city or nobody died in my county...all because of political bullshit that primarily surfaced after Trump lost the U.S. Presidential elections.

    Yet, the belief it was a Hoax started prior to the 2020 November Presidential elections or that it will be gone in a few months. That didn't work out too well and the Trump/Pence administration needed to lockdown the country & businesses mainly because most citizens refused to do their part to protect others in their community...the government had to do it for them.

    Just as surprising, some ET members still today say it was a hoax or nobody in my county has died from Covid.

    Personally, I was very happy to see our U.S. military reached +80% full vaccination rate prior to any vaccine mandate. Actually, not unusual considering we take many vaccines to enter the military and again for deployment to foreign countries.

    Regardless, the reaction to the Covid Pandemic is now a sad part of our history with its commonality with the election deniers. I seriously doubt we've learned not to mix politics with a global health crisis...too many deaths and stressing our healthcare system.

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    #21     Dec 28, 2022
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  2. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I don't have any problem with policy happening in real-time and poor decisions being made. No one expects perfect execution, especially at the government level. But that's not how it went down. People tried to speak up - to question what had been proven science for decades (masks) and were silenced. Censored. Threatened, etc. That's not how science works. That's how Religion works. And now, those who did so are quietly slinking back into the darkness, pretending they were always open to discussion - other than the rabid looneys like GWB who insist they were right from the beginning.
     
    #22     Dec 28, 2022
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  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    We're talking about media mouthpieces and government officials and famous folks who influence policy saying these things, while the opposite side of the conversation was actively silenced by the government.
     
    #23     Dec 28, 2022
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  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    you're debating history revisionists Ocho, it's pointless.
     
    #24     Dec 28, 2022
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    What other side are you saying was “silenced?” Sometimes you just don’t get your way.

    There’s legitimate grievances. I mentioned before closing schools and remote learning was absolutely a lesson learned. Probably a strategy focused on elderly and vulnerable would have saved more lives. But again these are decisions being made in real time and mostly at the state level.
     
    #25     Dec 28, 2022
  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I haven't revised a single thing I've posted on COVID since the absolute beginning.
     
    #26     Dec 28, 2022
  7. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    The people who took the other side and said vaccines were flawed. Or wouldn't stop prevention when we were told it would. Or that masks didn't work - especially those "hello kitty" masks and sports teams cloth people were wearing. Or doctors that said children didn't need to get vaccinated. Or should go to school. Just as an example.

    If there was true discourse and doctors weren't afraid to express concerns openly, or banned, we might not have made the mistakes you claim we did as "oops".

    As for decisions made at the state level, which I agree with, you can absolutely see the decisions made at the state level in Florida, which ended up being more correct than other states and you saw what lunacy that created in the media and the administration (the Biden admin). And the general public recognized it. That's why it leads the country in migration numbers.
     
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  8. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    As of Dec. 28, 2022, –18% people in the U.S. had died after contracting COVID-19, according to The New York Times.

    Here is a breakdown of average daily COVID-19 deaths and COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people over the last seven days in all 50 U.S. states and Washington, D.C. The data was last updated Dec. 28, 2022

    My states of interest are Kentucky, Illinois, and South Dakota from the below Covid mortality state ranking.

    Kentucky was the worst of the three while South Dakota was the best performer of the three mainly because of the effort to get the most vulnerable (e.g. Indigenous Americans, healthcare workers, disability) fully vaccinated that's far above the general population of the state.
    • The two best performing states against Covid are Maine and South Dakota. :D
    States I'm surprised the most about their excellent performance against Covid is Texas, Oklahoma and North Carolina because they are states with a large minority population.

    Note: States are ranked by deaths per 100,000. The list includes ties. The Top 10 worst-performing states are at the top and the best-performing states are near the bottom.

    * My states and location for most of my relatives.

    Alaska
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.35
    Daily average deaths: 2.6

    Connecticut
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.31
    Daily average deaths: 11.0

    Delaware
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.29
    Daily average deaths: 2.9

    Florida
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.27
    Daily average deaths: 58.0

    Massachusetts
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.23
    Daily average deaths: 15.7

    Iowa
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.21
    Daily average deaths: 6.6

    Arizona
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.21
    Daily average deaths: 15.6

    Rhode Island
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.20
    Daily average deaths: 2.1

    Wyoming
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.20
    Daily average deaths: 1.1

    Washington
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.17
    Daily average deaths: 13.1

    Tennessee
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.17
    Daily average deaths: 11.3

    Michigan
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.16
    Daily average deaths: 15.7

    West Virginia
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.16
    Daily average deaths: 2.9

    North Dakota
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.15
    Daily average deaths: 1.1

    Pennsylvania
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.15
    Daily average deaths: 19.3

    Indiana
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.15
    Daily average deaths: 10.4

    Colorado
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.14
    Daily average deaths: 8.1

    Georgia
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.14
    Daily average deaths: 14.7

    New Jersey
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.13
    Daily average deaths: 11.1

    Idaho
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.13
    Daily average deaths: 2.3

    Minnesota
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.13
    Daily average deaths: 7.6

    Nevada
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.13
    Daily average deaths: 3.9

    * Kentucky
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.12
    Daily average deaths: 5.4

    New Mexico
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.12
    Daily average deaths: 2.6

    Vermont
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.11
    Daily average deaths: 0.7

    Arkansas
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.11
    Daily average deaths: 3.3

    Maryland
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.10
    Daily average deaths: 6.0

    Hawaii
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.10
    Daily average deaths: 1.4

    New York
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.10
    Daily average deaths: 19.6

    Ohio
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
    Daily average deaths: 10.7

    Alabama
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
    Daily average deaths: 4.3

    New Hampshire
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
    Daily average deaths: 1.3

    * Illinois
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.09
    Daily average deaths: 12.0

    California
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
    Daily average deaths: 31.9

    Washington, D.C.
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
    Daily average deaths: 0.6

    Virginia
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.08
    Daily average deaths: 6.9

    Utah
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.07
    Daily average deaths: 2.3

    Missouri
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.07
    Daily average deaths: 4.3

    Mississippi
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.07
    Daily average deaths: 2.2

    Louisiana
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
    Daily average deaths: 3.0

    Wisconsin
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.06
    Daily average deaths: 3.4

    South Carolina
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
    Daily average deaths: 2.4

    Texas
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.05
    Daily average deaths: 13.1

    Oregon
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.04
    Daily average deaths: 1.9

    Montana
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.04
    Daily average deaths: 0.4

    North Carolina
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.04
    Daily average deaths: 4.1

    Nebraska
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
    Daily average deaths: 0.6

    Kansas
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
    Daily average deaths: 1.0

    Oklahoma
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.03
    Daily average deaths: 1.1

    * South Dakota
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.02
    Daily average deaths: 0.1

    Maine
    Deaths per 100,000: 0.01
    Daily average deaths: 0.2
    In contrast to the above...below is the overall Covid mortality state ranking and you can see how your state did for the entire Pandemic as of December 21st, 2022.

    Worst state performers in this Pandemic near the top and the best state performers in this Pandemic near the bottom. Below graph is self-explanatory.

    U.S. COVID death rate by state 2022 Statista.png

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  9. easymon1

    easymon1

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  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Vaccines are flawed how? If it weren’t for vaccines we would not be open with such low hospitalizations and fatalities as we are today. Look at China’s current struggles. You shouldn’t take the vaccines for granted even if you’re part of the 23% that did not get vaccinated. The truth is you’re living in a vaccinated country and reaping the rewards.

    Masks were effective and remain so. The elderly mostly were them in my church and it’s a good thing. As a matter of fact I wouldn’t be surprised to see vulnerable populations continue to mask up for years through flu season. Asian countries with masking culture did especially well through the pandemic without vaccination.

    School is a different story, objectively closing schools and remote learning was a failure. There’s no doubt the data on that came back bad. That’s a true lesson learned.

    I still don’t personally know any single doctor that was against vaccines or social distancing, masking. My personal doctor still wears an N95 and his office is masked. Pediatrician is the same way. Maybe a few outliers believed in letting the virus spread but very few and not part of the consensus.

    Florida is a different climate and should not get spread like in colder weather states. Y’all did mess up with the masking before vaccinations became widespread. I can recall videos of sick people passing out in Florida trying to get care for Covid. It wasn’t as hunky dory as you want to portray it down there.

    Florida‘a growing population is due to retirees. It’s a good place to retire and has nothing to do with Covid. People don’t like to be cold when they get old.
     
    #30     Dec 28, 2022