COVID-19 conspiracy thread....who released it?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Mar 8, 2020.

which tinfoil hat do you choose

  1. official story (cross-species transfer)

    6 vote(s)
    21.4%
  2. accidental release of virus

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. accidental release of bioweapon

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  4. intentional release of bioweapon (China)

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  5. intentional release of bioweapon (USA)

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  6. intentional release of bioweapon (Russia)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. intentional release of bioweapon (terrorists)

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #181     May 10, 2020
  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Some excerpts below.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/e...idence-implying-covid-19-was-created-in-a-lab

    EXCLUSIVE: Virus researchers uncover new evidence implying COVID-19 was created in a lab
    Preliminary study results suggest virus was produced in lab cultures using human cells.

    May 16, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – A team of Australian scientists has produced new evidence that the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 is optimized for penetration into human cells rather than animal cells, undermining the theory that the virus randomly evolved in an animal subject before passing into human beings, and suggesting instead that it was developed in a laboratory.

    The study, which has not yet been peer reviewed, provides new but not yet conclusive evidence favoring the theory that the novel coronavirus originated not in a food market as has been claimed, but rather in a laboratory, presumably one operated by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China, the city in which the first outbreak of COVID-19 occurred in December of 2019.

    The lead researcher on the team says that the results represent either “a remarkable coincidence or a sign of human intervention” in the creation of the virus.

    Unless an animal version of virus is found, evidence points to “human intervention”
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2020
    #182     May 17, 2020
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Coronavirus: Chinese virologist Shi Zhengli publishes new paper on pathogen’s evolution
    • Research by scientist from Wuhan laboratory accused by Donald Trump of being the source of virus that sparked Covid-19 pandemic looks at how Sars-related pathogens have adapted to suit human hosts
    • Shi this month took to social media to dismiss rumours she had defected from China and taken hundreds of confidential documents with her
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...se-virologist-shi-zhengli-publishes-new-paper

    Shi Zhengli, the Chinese virologist whose work has been the subject of controversial theories about the origin of the novel coronavirus, has published new research into Sars-related pathogens and their animal hosts.
    The head of the centre for emerging infectious diseases at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Shi said in a paper published on the preprint website Biorxiv.org on Thursday that the Chinese horseshoe bat was the natural host for Sars-related coronaviruses (SARSr-CoVs).

    The research, which has not been peer-reviewed, said that the bat carried many coronaviruses with a high degree of genetic diversity, particularly in the spike protein, which suggested they had evolved over time to aid their transmission.

    “All tested bat SARSr-CoV spike proteins had a higher binding affinity to human ACE2 than to bat ACE2, although they showed a 10-fold lower binding affinity to human ACE2 compared with their SARS-CoV counterpart,” the paper said.

    The ACE2, or angiotensin-converting enzyme 2, is a protein that provides the entry point for the coronavirus to hook onto and infect human cells, while the spike protein is the part of the virus that binds to human cells.

    Earlier laboratory research established a strong genetic link between the coronavirus that causes Covid-19 and one found in a horseshoe bat in southeastern China.

    Shi has been the subject of intense speculation over her work at the institute, which includes the discovery of the natural bat reservoir for the Sars (severe acute respiratory syndrome) pathogen that spread through southern China from 2002 to 2003.

    US President Donald Trump last month said he had a high degree of confidence that the novel coronavirus was linked to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, even after US intelligence said that while it was “not man-made or genetically modified”, it was still examining information to determine if the outbreak began from infected animals or a lab accident.

    Shi had weeks earlier denied the pathogen had somehow leaked from her lab.

    “I guarantee with my life that the virus has nothing to do with my lab,” she said in a WeChat post in February.

    She took to social media again this month to dismiss rumours that she had defected from China with her family and taken hundreds of confidential documents with her.

    “No matter how difficult things are, there will not be a ‘defector’ situation as the rumours have said,” she wrote on WeChat.

    On March 9, she took part in an online discussion about the novel coronavirus.

    “I predicted in 2018 that the chances of cross-species infection of the bat Sars-related coronavirus were quite high,” she said.

    “But I didn’t expect it to happen so soon … in the city where I live.”
     
    #183     May 17, 2020
  4. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    It is interesting that the above statement is in that article. That is the specific reason that the scientist from Australia came to the exact opposite conclusion that Covid-19 was bioengineered.

    She is already essentially guaranteeing it with her life. If she is unsuccessful in convincing the scientific community that the virus come from the wild, I am sure that the Chinese government will kill her.

    It has already been proven that the bat virus mentioned above is very different from Covid-19 and therefore there is no chance that Covid-19 mutated from that virus. In other words, Covid-19 and that specific bat virus are genetically very different.
     
    #184     May 17, 2020
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I tend to not believe what she is saying and that she is speaking under duress. But provided the information as a "counter-point" to claims that the lady has disappeared and not been seen lately.

    At this point I believe (but with evidence my thoughts can be changed) that COVID-19 escaped from a Chinese Research Lab where they were experimenting with it. At this point I believe it is natural and not engineered (but if more data comes about I am open to changing my mind).
     
    #185     May 17, 2020
  6. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    It's likely the intentions were altruistic (understanding bat corona virus like SARS, MERS, etc..) but they fucked up w/the safety measures. China will likely never come clean until Trump's out of office. Admitting wrong doing would prove economically catastrophic as Trump would use them as a campaign scapegoat.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2020
    #186     May 17, 2020
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  7. Cuddles

    Cuddles

     
    #187     May 17, 2020
  8. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    #188     Jun 4, 2020
  9. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    #189     Jun 4, 2020
  10. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    bold move cotton...

     
    #190     Jul 4, 2020