COVID-19 conspiracy thread....who released it?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Cuddles, Mar 8, 2020.

which tinfoil hat do you choose

  1. official story (cross-species transfer)

    6 vote(s)
    21.4%
  2. accidental release of virus

    10 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. accidental release of bioweapon

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  4. intentional release of bioweapon (China)

    5 vote(s)
    17.9%
  5. intentional release of bioweapon (USA)

    3 vote(s)
    10.7%
  6. intentional release of bioweapon (Russia)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. intentional release of bioweapon (terrorists)

    1 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Well, according to the below study, it looks like the Wuhan virology lab created nearly identical virus to Covid-19 in 2015.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985

    Published: 09 November 2015
    A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence

    The emergence of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)-CoV underscores the threat of cross-species transmission events leading to outbreaks in humans. Here we examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations1. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.
     
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    #141     Apr 11, 2020
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  2. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    In the video, it demonstrates that the Wuhan virology lab has been experimenting and bio engineering bat coronaviruses to determine human transmission for years.
     
    #142     Apr 11, 2020
  3. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    yes, accidental release of it is one of the poll options. Still, I think people don't realize that 'corona' is a blanket term for a whole slew of virus & the genetics of this COVID 19 still don't point to an engineered pathogen.
     
    #143     Apr 11, 2020
  4. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Below is the Wuhan virologist giving a speech

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    #144     Apr 11, 2020
  5. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Watch the video. A molecular biologist, former Director of Lab of Antiviral Mechanisms NCI, stated that Covid-19 cannot possible be a natural mutation and that it most certainly was bio-engineered.

    The only person I have seen state that the genetics do not point to an engineered pathogen was the person in the Rogan videos. He offered absolutely no proof or studies to back his claim. Do you have anyone else that actually sites studies or offers any proof of that claim? What information/studies was he relying on?
     
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    #145     Apr 11, 2020
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  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    I watch Sky News Australia quite often as they are actually very factual and useful to get a sense of the news sentiment a day ahead.

    It is not what is being said but the news source here that interested me.

     
    #146     Apr 11, 2020
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  7. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    It looks like the person in the Rogan video was offering a completely subjective opinion without any science whatsoever to back up his statement.

    Below is a quote from a study published a couple of days ago:

    "There are too many rapid mutations to neatly trace a COVID-19 family tree. We used a mathematical network algorithm to visualise all the plausible trees simultaneously," said geneticist Dr Peter Forster, lead author from the University of Cambridge.
     
    #147     Apr 11, 2020
  8. WeToddDid2

    WeToddDid2

    Dr. Osterholm was on Tucker Carlson's show. By you standards, doesn't that completely discredit Osterholm? LOL

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/infectious-disease-expert-coronavirus-pandemic-first-inning
     
    #148     Apr 11, 2020
  9. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    Thanks. I watch the daily report on NTD news to get the inside scoop on CCP malfeasance.
     
    #149     Apr 11, 2020
  10. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love