Covered Calls

Discussion in 'Options' started by DallasCowboysFan, Jul 13, 2025 at 9:24 PM.

  1. So every time someone loses 1% on a stop loss, they're a "loser", but a moron who loses 100% because he "manages risk by position size not price" is in a "win win win win win win" situation. :D:D:D

    "i pAiD oFF mUh GT4!"

    And it only took ten years and a Christmas "loan" from mom. :p

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  2. deaddog

    deaddog

    But not a big loser.
    And how much will you have to borrow or sell come tax time?
    FWIW If I wanted a GT4 I'd pay cash. I'd borrow to invest, that way the interest is tax deductable.
     
  3. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    ROC = no tax
    The dividends cover the tax lol ..like any other income.
     
  4. deaddog

    deaddog

    That's my point. When you sare doing your calculations comparing divy income to cap gain income, you have to consider the tax implications.
    ROC lowers your acb so that eventually you have to pay cap gains on the ROC.
    It's a bookkeeping pain in the ass. Especially with monthly distributions.
     
  5. wxytrader

    wxytrader



    DRIP $100K/year at $21.50 = ~4,651 new MSTY shares

    Tax owed (50% taxable @ 40%) = $20K

    Sell ~952 shares at $21 to cover tax

    Net gain: ~3,699 shares


    So even after paying tax, you’re compounding aggressively.
     
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    borrow for the gt4 and still borrow to invest!
     
  7. taowave

    taowave

    But you are now 100 percent contradicting yourself…

    You stated you don’t sell in the hole, thus all your losses are unrealized

    Not an offset, not a win win…

    Or are you now saying tight stops are dumb, but 80 percent drawdown stops are OK???

    Regardless, you are an investor,not a trader, and I have always credited your common sense regarding position sizing…




     
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  8. demoncore

    demoncore

    The problem is that it's hobbyist shit if you can write off a position as cash-secured.
     
  9. demoncore

    demoncore

    Nobody serious would size their position cash secured. There are huge edges in dispersion on skewed downside structures in index and SN tickers exhibiting downside skew. Vol of vol upside in tech SN, crypto, etc.

    It's a combination of a capability ceiling and laziness that keep ppl from figuring it out.
     
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  10. deaddog

    deaddog

    I never borrow to buy a depreciating asset.