Countdown to Trump's 2nd Inauguration Day

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Buy1Sell2, Sep 15, 2023.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    Just like in Georgia. Trump was ahead like 380,000 votes with 2% left to count. Then, they stopped the count suddenly. It took them weeks to count the 2% and like 90% of them were for Biden? Some precincts, Trump got zero votes. And Democrats have the habit of finding a huge stash of uncounted ballots, the origin of which is not established but, they are counted just the same.
     
    #21     Sep 16, 2023
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  2. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Bull1Shit2 and Mercor didn't have nurturing childhoods so apparently missed out being read this little gem.


    The Boy Who Cried Wolf

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    There once was a shepherd boy who was bored as he sat on the hillside watching the village sheep. To amuse himself he took a great breath and sang out, "Wolf! Wolf! The Wolf is chasing the sheep!"

    The villagers came running up the hill to help the boy drive the wolf away. But when they arrived at the top of the hill, they found no wolf. The boy laughed at the sight of their angry faces.

    "Don't cry 'wolf', shepherd boy," said the villagers, "when there's no wolf!" They went grumbling back down the hill.

    Later, the boy sang out again, "Wolf! Wolf! The wolf is chasing the sheep!" To his naughty delight, he watched the villagers run up the hill to help him drive the wolf away.

    When the villagers saw no wolf they sternly said, "Save your frightened song for when there is really something wrong! Don't cry 'wolf' when there is NO wolf!"

    But the boy just grinned and watched them go grumbling down the hill once more.

    Later, he saw a REAL wolf prowling about his flock. Alarmed, he leaped to his feet and sang out as loudly as he could, "Wolf! Wolf!"

    But the villagers thought he was trying to fool them again, and so they didn't come.

    At sunset, everyone wondered why the shepherd boy hadn't returned to the village with their sheep. They went up the hill to find the boy. They found him weeping.

    "There really was a wolf here! The flock has scattered! I cried out, "Wolf!" Why didn't you come?"

    An old man tried to comfort the boy as they walked back to the village.

    "We'll help you look for the lost sheep in the morning," he said, putting his arm around the youth, "Nobody believes a liar...even when he is telling the truth!"
     
    #22     Sep 16, 2023
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  3. Mercor

    Mercor

    This is you to this conversation

     
    #23     Sep 16, 2023
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Read the story.

    Stop annoying people, everybody else has heard it so what you are doing does not work.
     
    #24     Sep 16, 2023
  5. Statistics can be applied effectively in many types of human interactions. Marketing, trading, poker, and dating are top of mind. Getting out the vote can be considered a form of marketing. One of the metrics measuring success of a marketing campaign is called "Conversion ratio". Conversion ratio measures the number of contacts made versus the number of "Sales" made. Conversion ratios vary according to contact method, the number of contacts attempted, the skill of the person attempting he contact, and what is being marketed. Typical conversion ratios, roughly speaking, for direct mail are about 1 in a 1000, for telemarketing, 1 in 200, and door knocking 1 in 40 or so. Not all answer the phone, especially unrecognized numbers. Many don't answer the door, even when home, especially in the inner cities if the knocker is not recognized through a peephole, effectively limiting maximum conversion ratios.

    Variations in conversion ratios by geographic location and campaign time frames can also be measured statistically. A typical conversion ratio of 1/100, say +/- 1/20 falls under a 68% or 1 standard deviation, a performance of, say, 1 conversion in 60 contacts may have a probability of 5% and so on. To be fair, I would expect political based conversion ratios to be higher than other marketing, especially when gifts are offered, but still, not everyone answers the door or phone, etc. In other words, it is really, really, really improbable (Really improbable) for massive changes for voter turnout to happen using the same methods traditional marketers use. By massive changes, I talking more than a couple of percentage points. Apparently, there were numerous heavy Democrat districts that achieved 80, 90, 100, 100%+ turnout of registered voters in that district. Not all of this can be explained by voters registering is one district and being able to vote in another, as there were several large clusters of exceptionally high turnouts involving adjoining districts.

    The people fundamentally deserve representative Government. The question is, where to find this representation? Can we expect representation by those who attempt to unfairly influence the outcome of elections? Can we expect competent representation by those who fail to protect the integrity or at least the transparency of elections, which includes their own interests? Again, it seems we are left with an establishment versus non- establishment (OK, less establishment) decision (At least I hope it really is "Our" decision). A Joe Biden, long term establishment politician, media's and partisan prosecutor's choice versus a Donald Trump, DC outsider, decision. By the way, you remember how our most of our media gets paid, right?
     
    #25     Sep 16, 2023
  6. All of those marketing points have merit. But unfortunately the patriotism and civic duty aspects are not even considerations anymore. It's all "what's in it for me to vote."

    I grew up in rural New England, where the connections to the American Revolution still reverberated within one's psyche. You show up to vote - unless you are dead- or have another good reason.

    My father explained to me early on that he and my mother had gone to the polls for decades and cancelled out each others vote when they went by voting for opposite candidates. But you still go and vote because that is what American's do.

    That whole dimension is missing these days.

    The dems are working toward the goal of having a voting app on their phone. The pictures of candidates pop up - you click- and you are done. The parties have you email address when you download the app. So they have been inundating you with ads for weeks.
     
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    #26     Sep 16, 2023
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  7. I have long been an advocate of leveraging technology to make it easier for people to vote not just on candidates, but also on most local and national legislation. Maybe voters could have some impact on cabinet selection and other formerly appointed officials. There are obvious validation and illegal influencing issues that must be addressed, but the proper use of technology potentially could give us better representation. As far as giving AI a vote(s), I'll leave that discussion for another day.
     
    #27     Sep 16, 2023
  8. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    do you know your father ?
     
    #28     Sep 17, 2023
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    #29     Sep 17, 2023
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    #30     Sep 17, 2023