Coronavirus DEBATE: Why are Americans dumb as fck?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KCalhoun, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    False equivalence is a logical fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency.

    So a believed tiny percentage of people have been infected via their eyes therefore there is no point in doing anything about the very vast majority of infections via respiration.
     
    #21     Jun 21, 2020
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  2. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    You really are incredibly ignorant.
     
    #22     Jun 21, 2020
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  3. Perhaps you should have some and then compare it with all that must-have-now freedom. And then report back to us.
     
    #23     Jun 21, 2020
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  4. Is that what you’re doing?
     
    #24     Jun 21, 2020
  5. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    There are people who didn't die, and are going through rehab of a serious nature. There is also a lot on unknowns on the long term impact on people's health given that there can be lung damage that lasts at least 10 years. I'm no medical person but plenty of experts in the field are very clear you don't want to catch this virus if you can avoid it. So it's incredibly stupid to see people like "Jem" actively encouraging "low risk" people to catch the virus.

    His and others plans to do so is working in the US. Yesterdays stats showed something like 380 new cases in Canada and 33,000 new cases in the US. It's a rapid spike suggesting many people are not taking appropriate precautions.

    Maybe Americans will get lucky on this, roll the dice sacrifice a lot of older and frail people and move on ( immoral on some levels imo ). However, if this gets worse, it's on the "Jem"'s of the world they are practically daring the virus to have a huge second wave worse then the first.

    You can pretend the lock down wasn't needed but that is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed the virus to get a strong position in the US in the first place ( as much as 3 times worse then Canada from day one ).
     
    #25     Jun 21, 2020
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  6. Are you sniffing again?
     
    #26     Jun 21, 2020
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  7. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    If only the virus was a risk to the people taking dumb risks.
     
    #27     Jun 21, 2020
  8. I believe you’re referring to the Trump base.
     
    #28     Jun 21, 2020
  9. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    BS. The stats are massive in the US. As per usual, you are too dumb for words and should probably just shut up but you are too dumb to realize that too.

    Without the lock down you would have been totally screwed. No doubts at all.
     
    #29     Jun 21, 2020
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  10. jem

    jem

    Expert opinion without the data and science to support it... does not mean much.
    Especially when there are experts saying the opposite...

    For instance the WHO told us in writing on June 5th masks don't to anything unless you are working with the sick.

    And the vast majority of studies on masks found there was no data showing the efficacy of masks for the public with similar types of virus.
    Now some recent "studies" observe that masks and social distancing are correlated with a reduction of spread... Yeah maybe... .or maybe its a happy coincidence since we started isolating the sick and those with compromised immune systems.

    There may also be plenty of health problems with masks....


    Some of the 95 type masks let you breath out 100 percent of the virus.
    Other masks get filled with bacteria and virus (if you have it) so fast you would have to replace them every few minutes or you are going to be breathing in all sorts of stuff that can make you sick and perhaps blowing out a more potent or higher viral load if you are sick.

    The efficacy of masks is very unsettled. And anyone who has tried working out (hard) with a mask on..... knows your body screams for you to take it off so you can get more oxygen.

    Depriving yourself of oxygen over time is a sure way to compromise your immune system. Sucking in fibers can not be good for you lungs either.

    So the next time you tell me the "experts say"... produce the data and the science and I will be happy to read it.

     
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    #30     Jun 21, 2020
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