Even fox news is telling them quietly to stop being stupid. https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-coronavirus-deaths-projected-reach-180000-october
Yeah, all the people hating on DeSantis fail to say anything about Cuomo. Fact is that Florida deaths are still 1/10th the amount of deaths in NY.
From what we see from the videos of people on the beaches and bars and restaurants and the recent spike in daily cases Florida might sadly arrive there by mid July. At least Cuomo over reacted to the issue rather than under reacted. Deaths take time to happen so you have to look at 3 to 5 weeks from now for potential worst case scenerio. Nobody wants to see people dying but I don't want to see DeSantis bragging on television how amazing he is doing while his citizens congregate in large groups on the beach and cite God as why they should not wear masks is a disaster waiting to happen. Your area may be fine but the rest of the state is starting to spread. I have family in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale stretch of I95 and things were quiet for some time (except one cousin who is a nurse and said their ER was overrun for a month). I have family in NY/NJ and it ws a shit show. My firm belief is that Florida is now entering the same phase as early NY/NJ. Nothing would make me happy to be wrong because my home county has been amazing but when the rest of the country spikes, locals panic and we get stuck with more restrictions and we can never emerge. COVID is not something that springs up in all palces at once. Northeast and West coast got hit and exploded with cases and deaths and now are sliding lower. It is now time for the other states that did very little to go through the same experience. Florida, Arizona etc are now where we were back in April.. But Florida and Arizona have the luxury of hindsight now to make choices to stop the growth rapidly from the msitakes made elsewhere. But they are choosing to make the same ones or inventing new ones.
Great post, 85. All I would say is that we were told back in the end of April we'd see a spike with people all over the beaches (it was happening then) and then throughout May and then in June,. Here we are and the deaths haven't occurred yet. They may indeed occur. I don't have the ability to prognosticate the future. But 1. They have yet to occur 2. If they occur, are they part of a genuine second wave or something due to Florida's behavioral difference (DeSantis, government, etc) and if this is true, then you won't see #3 3. The same thing happens a month or two later in other states as they open up and get their second wave.
I hope you are right but the arrival of Corona to the Southern Belt was delayed so it might not be fair to compare the paths of both areas since March. I do think Florida through Arizona was limited based on discussions with people who live in Southern Florida, Houston, Baton Rouge and Phoenix. When the Northeast was going through everything, most were saying it was like nothing was going on at all where they live and the few in Houston said it was as if nothing had changed at all. The mistake is to believe that when CA and NY got hit, FL and TX were on the same timeline. Just like USA was on a diffreent time line then China and Italy, so to with our States. FL and TX really did not enact any measures and when NY and CA exploded the lockdowns really prevented those people from travelling and spreading it, except for maybe New Orleans during Mardi Gras because Baton Rouge had an explosion. Right now the NorthEast is opening in a very limited manner, in phases with plenty of precautions. A few flare ups is expected buy I fear that people are bragging now in FL and TX and they have not even got to the peak yet. Based on timing of spread and death from contraction, mid to late July is when the shit will really hit the fan unless those States practice safety measures. They do not even have to lock down fully. But when half the state might think wearing masks is an act of the devil and people just want to get out in lage groups with NO precautions, your State is heading down a wrong path. And that is regardless of politics. It is based on what happened in other States and countries.
I agree. You can't compare ANY of it. There's no way to compare Florida to New York to California or Texas. Every place is its own center where different policies and different procedures should be looked at. And they're all going to behave differently. What's amusing is when we pointed out Sweden, we were told we couldn't compare Sweden to France or Spain because of (insert narrative here about different people, different countries, etc), but its perfectly acceptable to compare results and numbers between Florida and New York! Stop with the narratives (not you, but everyone). Just give it up and stop focusing on who the data makes look better or worse. Focus on what we should be doing and whether we are doing enough and make that the source of the debate.