A good friend of mine who works here in Tampa is essentially responsible for pandemic response in the US, and he essentially gave me all of that info verbatim over dinner Saturday evening. Still, the remaining question (and the one I asked him) was that of those that die, how many are healthy and not young/old/immuno compromised? He told me that was the $1 million question.
Really(?)... damn. As friends in high places go... that's a good one to know. I thought someone like that would be in Atlanta at the CDC HQ.
No, this guy is military. I had originally wondered why he wasn't at USAMRIID or Walter Reed but I never asked. I'd clarify by saying that he probably isn't the ultimate person of responsibility for pandemic response, but he's the guy drawing up the plans.
In that same article they talk about younger 20-30’s are having problems. The virus overwhelms some immune systems causing inflammation over the whole body causing multi-organ failure?? Some people, perfectly healthy may be more susceptible to the virus?? Trying to keep a level perspective on this but it seems it may be worse that we are being told, specially when you can carry and spread the virus without flu-like symptoms. It would be helpful perhaps to compare terminal patients looking for similar markers. Caixin: A 39-year-old patient in Hong Kong suffered from cardiac arrest, and his death ensued quickly. A few patients did not have severe symptoms upon the onslaught of the virus or in early stages, but they died suddenly. Some experts argue that the virus triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults. Eventually excessive inflammations caused by cytokine result in the higher mortality rate. Have you seen such a phenomenon in the coronavirus outbreak? Peng: Based on my observations, a third of patients exhibited inflammation in their whole body. It was not necessarily limited to young adults. The mechanism of a cytokine storm is about whole-body inflammation, which leads to a failure of multiple organs and quickly evolves into the terminal stage. In some fast-progressing cases, it took two to three days to progress from whole-body inflammation to the life-threatening stage. https://www.zerohedge.com/health/death-rate-5-harrowing-admission-wuhan-doctor
Yes it could trigger meltdown. However, we're in better shape and less susceptible than the rest of the world as Trump policies have made the US less dependent on China and the world at large.
Unfortunately, without a full report on that 39 year old patient in terms of co-morbidity or other factors, that one statistic is not very much help. Additionally, assuming Peng is accurate (which is a leap) he is saying a third of patients exhibited "whole body" inflammation. By the time he fell ill, himself, I'm not sure what sample size he could have used, or what the demographics of that sample size were.
I have spent no time on this. Is their a big world wide risk? Is their a big risk to all of China? Metaphorically speaking... When do you stop buying the dips and start selling the rallies?
I posted a few videos of what's really going on in china over in chit chat. It really looks like the apocalypse over there. Just yesterday a Chinese billionaire who's blown the whistle before on government corruption, reported that the there are over a million people in China infected and over 50,000 have died from the Coronavirus. https://www.ccn.com/billionaire-whistleblower-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-is-over-50000/
The virus is roughly twice as contagious as the regular flu, morbidity rates are the question? The numbers being reported from China are suspect, some feel numbers reported are low due limited testing supplies at ground zero, Wuhan and surrounding areas. The mere fact that China is going to such extremes, some 60 million people quarantined, basically under house arrest speaks volumes. The virus has basically a two week incubation period, which the person can spread the virus without actually having symptoms. The world is closing/has closed access/borders to China and the virus has yet to breakout in other populations. If it does, we could be on the cusp of another worldwide pandemic much like the spanish flu.