Corona 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    While I agree that having pharmacies involved in COVID vaccinations is a good idea.. and an obvious one. The truth remains that Trump put out their names as being involved and executives of these pharmacy chains stated despite their names being put forward they never heard from the Trump administration about plans to have them distribute vaccines— nor had any idea how many doses would be provided. The sole exception to this was CVS which partnered with the federal government under the Trump administration to go to nursing homes and vaccinate residents.
     
    #521     Feb 14, 2021
  2. Alright, I have made my point and provided supporting information which you have not accepted for political reasons. So I will leave it there.

    For the rest of you who are open to my point, you will find that the internet is wall to wall with articles supporting my point which is that all of the pharmacies that I listed knowingly entered into discussions and agreements with Trump, so the idea that Trump somehow used them without consulting with them is a total crock.

    Just as a quick example, along with the other links I provided, who was president in December of 2020? Answer me that. Was it Trump or Biden?

    So when the Chief Medical Officer of Walmart says in December of 2020 that they are preparing to receive vaccine at 5000 stores and Sam's Clubs does anyone here think that they did not have knowledge that they were to be included in the vaccine distribution???????
    And those december press releases followed the agreements reached in November, just as I said.

    And you can go company by company and confirm their involvement as well. Sheesh.

    Enough already. Sufficient support has been provided for my point for those who are not having TDS. Do you think when it says "at stores" that that means "just in nursing homes?"
    Get a grip, Mate.

    Note again, that I am just offering up Walmart as example. You can go chain by chain and confirm their involvement.

    One other thing as I end this: THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!

    DECEMBER 10, 2020.

    Walmart prepares to administer Covid vaccines at stores across the U.S.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/10/wal...ovid-19-vaccines-at-stores-across-the-us.html
     
    #522     Feb 14, 2021
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yes... all of these pharmacy chains were preparing to distribute the vaccines. They were actively trying to engage the Federal government while Trump was still in office. Most have stated their calls were not returned and they were given no data/information on when they should expect doses of vaccine to be available. This was information they needed to know so they could even determine what type of freezers to purchase and how to staff their stores.

    The pharmacy chains which provide millions of shots (for flu, etc.) in the U.S. per year knew they are one the most obvious and best locations for getting shots into arms of the COVID vaccine. So yes, they took steps to get ready, promoted they were getting ready, and worked to engage the federal government --- after all it was in their own business interests, getting feet in the door is how they make money.

    CVS was the only pharmacy chain engaged by the Trump administration which was given an allocation of vaccine with dates and expressed purpose -- this was to vaccinate people in nursing homes by visiting the facilities.
     
    #523     Feb 15, 2021
  4. I see. Your story shifts now.

    They knew and were involved but just didnt get full clarification on delivery dates for the vaccine.

    Well, it was November and, as we know, the vaccines could not be approved until Joe was elected even though they had already decided in-house to approve them. Not having an approved vaccine complicated commitment and delivery dates, eh.

    Whatever. We see your obligations to the official script. The official Biden script was supposed to be "we had to start from scratch." Now even you and Fauci balk at that as being too ridiculous to even work as spin. So move to variations of it.

    I am pretty sure you will have studies too that show that the effectivity of vaccines administered by federal troops is higher than when administered at Walmart.

    Give it a rest mate. You have earned your extra potato in your rations from the DNC.
     
    #524     Feb 15, 2021
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Can you tell us why the Trump administration never returned calls from many of the major pharmacy companies? All the way up to January 20th failing to return calls? Thought not?
     
    #525     Feb 15, 2021
  6. So they were involved, had signed up versus your previous assertions that Trump just floated that arrangement without their knowledge? Indeed. Just as I said and is fully documented.

    Now you crabwalk off to whether there was adequate communication about delivery dates before the vaccines were even approved. And yes, probably after the election and while he was in the midst of impeachment the quality of the effort fell apart. I dont doubt that for a minute. But my assertion that the plan to distribute the vaccine to through local chain pharmacies was created and agreed upon during and as a result of Trump's efforts stands.

    Similarly, Joe embarassingly found out that his great plan to do a million vaccinations a day was already Trump's plan and being met. ooops. This business of showing Joe doing something new and different is not as easy as you and Joe might like. Vaccine was developed under Trump and his vaccines are being distributed according to distribution plan agreed to under his administration. How bout you and Joe adding to Trump's work rather than trying to make it go away. Oh, I see. You have brought army boots into the pharmacies. Nice.
     
    #526     Feb 15, 2021
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    My take is you are re-writing history and reality. Keep pushing your own version of how great Trump did in the COVID response; we all know differently.
     
    #527     Feb 15, 2021
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  8. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

     
    #528     Feb 16, 2021
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Yep... we know. The Trump administration has no pandemic response plan and did nothing in regards to distributing vaccines -- leaving it up to states and localities. This is obvious to every rational person.

    Biden administration surprised by the true nature of Trump's COVID-19 response "plan"
    Kamala Harris revealed in an interview what they discovered about the outgoing administration's pandemic response
    https://www.salon.com/2021/02/15/bi...ure-of-trumps-covid-19-response-plan_partner/

    In an interview with Axios on HBO, Vice President Kamala Harris claimed 'there was no national strategy or plan for vaccinations' in the Trump administration's COVID-19 plan. Harris claims what many in the Biden administration have surmised after taking over governing.

    'We were leaving it to the states and local leaders to try and figure it out," Harris told reporter Mike Allen.

    President Joe Biden made a similar claim when he announced the next steps for the vaccine plan.

    "There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch," one Biden source told CNN in January.

    "In many ways, we are starting from scratch on something that's been raging for almost an entire year," Harris told Axios.

    Sources told CNN the same thing after the inauguration, saying that during the transition it became clear to the Biden science team that they would have to essentially begin from "square one" because the Trump administration hadn't developed a plan. "Wow, just further affirmation of complete incompetence."

    "The process to distribute the vaccine, particularly outside of nursing homes and hospitals out into the community as a whole, did not really exist when we came into the White House," White House chief of staff Ron Klain said in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press."

    Trump announced in August that his administration was purchasing 100 million vaccinations from Moderna and 100 million of the Pfizer vaccine. Trump was offered more vaccines by both pharmaceutical companies but refused it, said NBC News. It prompted questions about why Trump hadn't purchased enough to fully cover all Americans, which would be over 660 million doses.

    "The suffering is so immense in terms of both the public health crisis, the number of people who have died, the number of people who've contracted it, and the economic crisis," the vice president also said.
     
    #529     Feb 16, 2021
  10. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    Trumpy trump trump! Trump! Trumpy Trump! And what's more, Trump!
     
    #530     Feb 16, 2021