Gov. Cuomo (versus Fredo) is on the tube criticizing the feds for not banning uk arrivals. "Why don't we do something smart for a change?" he asks. This is the clown who decided to put covid patients in to nursing homes and turn them into death camps. And one of the same clowns who joined in to chorus of dems saying it would be racist to ban Chinese from arriving during the initial outbreak. Also the same clown who got an Emmy award from the lefties for his masterful communication about the pandemic. Sick puppies- all of em.
Yup, Joe got his vaccine and did not fuck up. He made sure that he received it from a black nurse. That's what is really important.
COVID immunity lasts at least eight months, new data reveals https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-covid-immunity-months-reveals.html
Research shows COVID-19 immunity different than flu immunity, antibodies drop ‘rapidly’ after recovery https://globalnews.ca/news/7537652/...unity-antibodies-drop-rapidly-after-recovery/ Researchers in Montreal and Toronto are studying the body’s immunity response to COVID-19, and early findings show that immunity to the novel coronavirus is less protective than that to influenza — the common flu. Tania Watts, a PhD with the department of immunology at the University of Toronto, says researchers took blood cells from 13 people who had recovered from COVID-19 within four to 12 weeks since the patients’ full recovery, then stimulated their blood cells with parts of the virus to see if their immune cells would recognize the virus an create a response. “We compared these responses to what we see with the common influenza virus, a virus to which most adults are immune and are exposed to often,” Watts said. “All the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) recovered patients had immune memory responses to both SARS-CoV-2 and to the influenza virus, but with significant differences in how they responded.” Study co-lead Dr. Mario Ostrowski said the response in individuals whose blood cells were stimulated with COVID-19 showed increased inflammation and showed a response that shows less protection from infection than when people’s blood was stimulated with the influenza virus. Ostrowski said the study is looking to find out whether the immune cells in the blood of someone who has recovered from COVID-19 will react similarly or differently to the COVID-19 vaccine. Researchers at Université de Montréal say their early research findings on COVID-19 immunity shows that antibody levels in the blood of patients drop rapidly during the weeks after their immune systems clears the virus and symptoms have subsided. The research team in Montreal says their research will be looking into whether health officials will be able to predict which COVID-19 patients will experience the disease in a severe way, whether recovered patients can develop long-term protective immunity, if antibody tests could indicate which patients are at higher risk of re-infection and whether re-exposure to the virus boosts immunity.
I can't replay this discussion right now. But just in general, just looking at antibody levels in blood serum as a way of assessing immunity is bullfeathers. The study that I posted above properly recognizes that antibody levels fade after an infectiion but the memory cells remain pre-programmed to gear up and go on the attack, regardless of what the current serum antibody level is. I will leave it there.
If you are pushing "T-cell" immunity -- it is nonsense. Anti-bodies make you immune to disease. T-cell response only allow you to possibly have a milder case -- it does not stop you from infecting others or catching the disease.
No. You are going where I did not. I said nothing about T cells. And memory cells that are programmed native immunity cells are not T cells. As an aside though, T cells play an important role for some but they do not help once the virus has substantially invaded the cells. T cells can help to hunt down and kill the virus in the blood serum. If you are lucky and it does that effectively then that can terminate the progression of the infection. But a T cell cannot- or cannot effectively anyway- enter a cell and do the deed. Antibodies can do that if at a sufficient level and the appropriate mix. Leaving it there again but do not put T cell words in my mouth where I did not nor get huffy about my doing so when I did not. You have some baggage that goes with others who you have had these discussions with. I am just a simple country boy trying to have a little discourse.
I am not sure exactly why this article seems to go out around or avoid the fact that it can our could be used as treatment for patients already sick with covid. Many/most who get very sick arrived there because they are having trouble ramping up their antibodies. The injection of antibodies proposed here is not unlike the recovery plasma approach- in theory- but in practice the recovery plasma effectivity has been hit or miss, mostly because the level of antibodies in recovery plasma has also been hit or miss. Anyway, a nice development here. Worth following. Covid: Post-exposure antibody protection trialled https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55438758
Study finds evidence of lasting immunity after mild or asymptomatic COVID-19 infection https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-evidence-immunity-mild-asymptomatic-covid-.html