Corona 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. elderado

    elderado

    Aw, there's the rub.

    There is a difference between "doing the testing" which is a binary issue - either the test is done, or the test is not done.

    Once the test is done, now you have the lab to review the results, which is exactly where the problem lies. You really can't blame a politician for a lab which is falsifying results.

    But go on and do it if it makes you feel better.
     
    #341     Jul 21, 2020
  2. easymon1

    easymon1

    Dr Ferguson,
    we're all gonna die!
    cued up...
     
    #342     Jul 25, 2020
  3. I won't replay my post from last week on this topic, but attached below is a related article.

    I was discussing the speculation that there is some virus or antigen floating around in the general population- either an unknown virus or the common cold corona virus- that is triggering t-cell/antibodies that partially recognize the covid virus and therefore provide partial or at least some protection from a severe covid illness.

    NOTE TO THE BINARY THINKERS HERE: No one is saying that the common cold virus or an unknown antigen is providing immunity from covid. We know you gotta go down that road and react as though I am saying that, even though to the normal mind I clearly am not. The issue at hand is why do so many people seem to have mild cases, and why do some people who have not had covid seem to have sets of antibodies that roughly match those generated in response to covid?


    Could prior exposure to common cold viruses affect the severity of SARS-CoV-2 symptoms?


    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-prior-exposure-common-cold-viruses.html
     
    #343     Jul 29, 2020
  4. The Ruskies are planning to start vaccinating in October.

    I guess the safety and efficacy testing are condensed into "let's start vaccinating people and see how it goes."

    That's efficient. OR NOT.

    from the BBC:

    Coronavirus: Russia plans mass vaccination campaign in October

    Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said.

    Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine.

    Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

    However, some experts are concerned at Russia's fast-track approach.

    On Friday, the leading infectious disease expert in the US, Dr Anthony Fauci, said he hoped that Russia - and China - were "actually testing the vaccine" before administering them to anyone.

    Dr Fauci has said that the US should have a "safe and effective" vaccine by the end of this year.

    "I do not believe that there will be vaccines so far ahead of us that we will have to depend on other countries to get us vaccines," he told US lawmakers.
     
    #344     Aug 1, 2020
  5. I will just post this here, I don't want to get into discussions about whether Bill Gates is a good guy or a bad guy.

    Just want to say that I agree that covid treatments versus vaccinations are very much equally where it's at or should be in addition to vaccines. Yes, I get why a vaccine is the ultimate but we have a year to cross over and preventing deaths is a plenty helpful thing for the transition period.

    And I very much agree that focusing on anti-inflammatories to quell that motherchucking cytokine storm is also 100% where the focus needs to be along with antivirals. He is is feeling upbeat about resdemsivir/sp in combo with dexamethasone and I most definitely am upbeat about that as well. Eventually some interferon should be and will be added into the mix.

    Regular viewers know that I am big believer that effective treatment will be a result of "stacking edges" together rather silver bullet binary thinking. The results for resdem are only so-so, and for steroids such as dexa are only so-so, etc. But some of the Californian hospitals have been using that combo and early results look very good.

    Just say no to ventilators!!!!! Get that damn cytokine storm under control by adding anti-inflammatories such as dexamethasone in with any anti-virals also being administered. Throw a bag of recovery plasma into the mix too if needed. Keep stacking those edges.


    Bill Gates: 160 coronavirus treatments in progress
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08-06/bill-gates-160-coronavirus-treatments-progress
     
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2020
    #345     Aug 7, 2020
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  6. elderado

    elderado

    Oh.....Look like not a Biden voter!

     
    #346     Aug 11, 2020
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  8. Get rid of the blubber. Not just grossly excessive blubber, but any extra blubber if you want to increase your resistance to covid.

    That's one of the reasons why you hear all these stories about "young and healthy people with no underlying conditions" dying from covid. Americans don't consider extra fat to be a clinical problem until you have a stroke or diabetes. "Oh, so and so is 80 pounds overweight but he is healthy." Ahhh, no he is not. Fat cells are very inflammatory in and of themselves before covid even arrives, and covid loves high glucose levels- which most overweight- even moderately overweight people have.

    Boris Johnson is sort of on a "get the blubber off" campaign in the UK as a result of his experience. Good.

    COVID-19: Hospitalization significantly higher for those overweight
    People who are overweight, even if only modestly, are at greater risk of COVID-19 hospitalization, finds a new study led by UCL researchers.
    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-08-covid-hospitalization-significantly-higher-overweight.html
     
    #348     Aug 18, 2020
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