Question for those who have been trading for awhile. Right now every macro evaluation of the market and economy is weak at best: economic indicators are down, corporations are capital-starved, consumer debt is at a new high, worldcom/enron, earnings are bleak, retirements are depleted, etc., etc. Now the contrarians of the world say, "Perfect! This is the start of the bull!" Is there really anything to this? Have you seen the market go nuclear simply because it has imploded on itself? In the past haven't we always needed some fuel to get the institutions re-interested? Or do bulls just happen almost inexplicably?