Continously selling calls on VXX....

Discussion in 'Trading' started by S2007S, Aug 14, 2024.

  1. S2007S

    S2007S



    So I'm referring to VXX, the volatility index fund ETF.... its tied to the vix, however its the underlying ETF I'm referring to and not the futures contracts. So when i mentioned 73 I mean the stock price of the ETF VXX, being at that level while I'm short say at 55 on the assignment. I wouldn't mind since the ETF never stays high for long. Only thing that might occur is that VXX becomes a hard to borrow and the rate skyrockets but on VXX I don't think that would be such a high probability.
     
    #11     Aug 15, 2024
  2. Then why not buy svix?
     
    #12     Aug 15, 2024
  3. mervyn

    mervyn

    it is high probability to be assigned, even miles away from expiration date and price, vix trade is one of those. i trade vix options regularly.
     
    #13     Aug 15, 2024
  4. Bekim

    Bekim

    Better to wait until it spikes and buy puts
     
    #14     Aug 15, 2024
  5. mervyn

    mervyn

    any debit trades on an index is money losing game, no one is certain about the timing.
     
    #15     Aug 15, 2024
  6. S2007S

    S2007S

    Playing sell calls on SOXL instead.

    More volatility in those at the moment.

    Selling them far out
     
    #16     Aug 15, 2024
  7. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Yes it's guaranteed money until it's not when the market takes a downturn and when it takes a downturn, it can be a drastic downturn and it can wipe out all the premiums that you've earned from selling calls. So when you sell calls, it's better you do it with a spread and not a naked call cuz when the call prices go up, the sky is the limit and not even and you can be caught in a nasty short squeeze. There have been people who have lost millions (or billions in this recent downturn) when continuing to short VXX: https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/...olatility-short-after-stocks-rout-2024-08-07/

    Consider yourself warned.
     
    #17     Aug 15, 2024
  8. S2007S

    S2007S



    I'm not trading with gigantic risk. And if you think about it even if I do a sell call on vxx say at 55 and it skyrockets to 75 and I get the assignment at 55 I can just wait it out for volatility to collapse and the vxx to drop back to earth. It happens all the time. Vxx never keeps going up. It's had nothing but a downtrend after each run higher.
     
    #18     Aug 15, 2024
  9. mervyn

    mervyn

    but you would own it at 55 and became a long trade, how long would it take to get out a collapsing position? almost never. if you really want to short, then short vxx directly. you trade options on vix options etn, aka vxx, that is for the unsophisticated.
     
    #19     Aug 15, 2024
  10. Bekim

    Bekim

    I buy puts all the time on VXX and then diagonalize them works for me and I don't risk blowing up my account
     
    #20     Aug 15, 2024