Consumer Confidence and Credit Card Deliq. GOING DOWN THE TOILET

Discussion in 'Commodity Futures' started by Trend Fader, Mar 23, 2004.

  1. If you think the market is oversold and due for a bounce, then why not just go LONG???

    :)
     
    #51     Mar 24, 2004
  2. Because the risk downside is greater. And if I do go long and play this bounce it would be with a fraction of normal size.

    --MIKE
     
    #52     Mar 24, 2004
  3. Well don't keep us holding our breath.

    Please let us know what you are gonna do!!!

    The supsense is killing us here at ET.

    :D
     
    #53     Mar 24, 2004
  4. Mecro

    Mecro

    There really is not much difference between a year ago and now aside from the terrorist issues being blown out of proportion.

    Fed's cheap money tricks have puffed up the interest sensitive stocks so thats why we are where we are now. But why would the market deflate unless the cheap money scam was to blow up in our faces. The job situation is the same, the corporate profits are still nothing more than a reflection of a cheaper dollar and cost cutting (along with fake outsourcing savings), the GDP & productivity are still misleading. Inflation is alive and well even though the government has been lying about it.
    So if you believe that the rally was justified, then the market is priced correctly at moment. There is still a very large bear sentiment so this market can easily rip just to screw the shorts AGAIN.

    Using fundamentals does not make sense for this market right now as it did not a year ago. If everyone came to their senses, this market should turn into a strong bearish wave. That would be a godsend comparing to the crap this market is going through now. There is something else going on.

    Listen I hope that you are right but I just do not see this market selling off in heavy volume. I would not mind it making some new highs for the election either. Just no more of this ridiculously fake volume and low volatility.

    April earnings should be interesting.
     
    #54     Mar 24, 2004
  5. GoBucks

    GoBucks

    I don't think I would base tomorrow's trading or the next day's BULL run on what the CEO of Applied Materials tells a bunch of analysts. What else is he gonna tell'em? The stock has been hit hard the past few days and it's probabably about to get worse. Lots worse imo.

    The buyback is going to be used to fund stock options and incentives!! Wholly MoLy. Nice way to waste money. How many flat screens does he or any other naive bullish types out there think all those debt ridden consumers need or even "want" for their "unfurnished" $500,000.00 homes? I'd look to Select Comfort before I look to Applied Materials as a bellweather on the coming months or even years to tell us when the economy has actually "turned the corner."

    But hey, I hope the bulls are very active tomorrow on such "great news." Please, anyone taking what Applied Materials CEO is saying as gospel, #1 has never run a company, and #2 has never heard of Jeff Skilling.

    Look at the volume, volume, volume. What were the trade desks doing today . . . . NOTHING. Same as yesterday.

    Does it really matter though if he's right and she's wrong. I trade what the market gives me. Long - I'm long. Short - I'm short. In the end, it seems to me that anyone fighting a "perma-anything" is missing 50% of what's available to them. The market moves both ways, day in and day out. Why not go with the flow.

    Anyway, hey, how many options do you think AMAT's CEO has or is setting aside for his own stash huh? Uh huh, we're just "in the beginning" of all this "potential." Excuse me, it's just really hard to swallow.
     
    #55     Mar 24, 2004
  6. You really are quite ignorant, aren't you?

    First of all, you need to read a lot more carefully since it was not the CEO of AMAT that made these remarks at the shareholder meeting. Second of all, the CFO Joseph Bronson did not have to say that the recovery in semiconductor manufacturing equipment, "is in the early stages, and not the later stages."

    I actually believe that that was a meaningfull comment.
    And guess what?

    The market apparently agrees with me since the SMH is +.92 just 90 minutes into the session with the Nasdaq +31.00

    It sucks to be short all the time, doesn't it?
     
    #56     Mar 25, 2004
  7. Too bad you have such a hard time going long, my friend.

    Looks like that major fib retracement at SPX 1087 is proving to be pretty valuable.

    :)
     
    #57     Mar 25, 2004
  8. Naaaaaa.
    That shareholder meeting by the CFO at AMAT and his comments about a recovery in the chip-ecotr didn't do anything for the market or chip-stocks now did it?

    SMH: +1.30 at $39.26

    :D
     
    #58     Mar 25, 2004
  9. I think the market can have some more legs into this rally.. notice volume has been really poor. Waggie nice call on picking the bottom... although I think it was mostly luck.

    Porbably tomorrow I willl look to start shorting again.
     
    #59     Mar 25, 2004
  10. You are so full of shit.
     
    #60     Mar 25, 2004