Constitutional Crisis: Colorado Dems Pass Bill To Eliminate Electoral College

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Scataphagos, Jan 31, 2019.

  1. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    We all know Cheetoh is a flip flopper.

    Still, that doesn't mean the Electoral College is a bad choice or should be disbanded.
     
    #121     Feb 1, 2019
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    I actually agree with you. Trump’s election, while a stain on American democracy, doesn’t invalidate the system of checks and balances that the electoral college offers.
     
    #122     Feb 1, 2019
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  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Federalist No. 68
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

    Federalist No. 68 is the 68th essay of The Federalist Papers, and was published on March 12, 1788. It is probably written by Alexander Hamilton under the pseudonym "Publius", the name under which all of the Federalist Papers were published. Since all of them were written under this pseudonym, who wrote what cannot be verified with certainty. Entitled "The Mode of Electing the President", No. 68 describes a perspective on the process of selecting the Chief Executive of the United States. In writing this essay, the author sought to convince the people of New York of the merits of the proposed Constitution. Number 68 is the second in a series of 11 essays discussing the powers and limitations of the Executive branch and the only one to describe the method of selecting the president.

    (Much more at above url)
     
    #123     Feb 1, 2019
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Only chumps writing for HuffPost or Vox try to claim that the Electoral College was about slavery. These authors are among the most ignorant writers.
     
    #124     Feb 1, 2019
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    Thank you for this but my point was based on constitutional intent being adverse to a national popular vote and a circumstance that would compel an elector to be faithless rather than a free agent, should they choose to cast a faithless vote.

    As I said, this is my opinion and I’m not trying to say the Massachusetts compact scenario wouldn’t be legal just no one has standing to oppose that law so it is not legally tested either. So it’s citation is legally useless.
     
    #125     Feb 1, 2019
  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    Again, then kindly explain why there was a 2/3s clause in the constitution.
     
    #126     Feb 1, 2019
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Actually it is a 3/5th clause. It is the compromise for representation in Congress based on population. The Southern states wanted each slave to be counted as one person and the Northern states wanted a slave to not be counted at all. The 3/5 figure was a compromise which allowed Southern states increased representation in the U.S. House. As seen by all the quotes of the creators of the Electoral College system the 3/5 compromise was not part of their decision process when creating the EC. - not mentioned in the Federalist No. 68, nor mentioned in letters or other documents related to the mode of electing a president.
     
    #127     Feb 1, 2019
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    You’re showing your ass here. And how do we get 538 electors?

    FYI: the 3/5s compromise increased Virginia’s electoral votes by 20%!
     
    #128     Feb 1, 2019
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    You did not even know it was 3/5ths and not 2/3rds. I will let others judge who is showing their ignorance here.
     
    #129     Feb 1, 2019
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    Unimportant. Let’s get back to the point, you claimed the 3/5 compromise had no bearing on the number of electors and I asked where do we get 538 electors?

    Let me know what Wikipedia tells you and we can see if your claim holds any water.
     
    #130     Feb 1, 2019