Consider These Two Trading Strategies...

Discussion in 'Risk Management' started by Visaria, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    Strategy 1 underperform Strategy 2
    That's it.

    Horizontal Axis (Y) is P(Gain) from 0 to 1
    The vertical one is the expected profit.
    X-intercept is break even ...

    I assume you to risk 1%.
     
    #11     Jan 28, 2016
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  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Expected value:

    E(A) = 0.6(+1) + 0.4(-1) = 0.2

    E(B) = 0.4(+2) + 0.6(-1) = 0.2

    Kelly fraction:

    K(A) = 0.6/|-1| - 0.4/1 = 0.2

    K(B) = 0.4/|-1| - 0.6/2 = 0.1


    A is clearly superior.
     
    #12     Jan 28, 2016
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  3. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    I agree that on paper A is superior.
    But in practice I'd choose B.
     
    #13     Jan 28, 2016
  4. Visaria

    Visaria

    Yes!

    Consider doing half kelly bets. If so, after 100 bets, your acct is at 4.52x with strategy A compared to 2.09x for strat B.

    A is definitely better. Food for thought.
     
    #14     Jan 28, 2016
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  5. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    The expected value is gain per unit bet. Same for both strats.

    The Kelly fraction tells how many units to bet.

    Clearly strategy A is superior.
     
    #15     Jan 28, 2016
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    The prob of a 5 straight losses is 1% in A and 7% in B. So for the same expected value you have less risk of permanent impairment of capital. Consistent with Kelly calculations above.

    It's interesting to see who focuses on gains and who focuses on losses in this discussion.
     
    #16     Jan 28, 2016
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  7. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    On Paper Ok.
    But in Practice, Especially Full Kelly, I'll bet on your Quick bankruptcy with A.
     
    #17     Jan 28, 2016
  8. Visaria

    Visaria

    Use half kelly
     
    #18     Jan 28, 2016
  9. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    I reformulate for half:

    But in Practice, I'll bet on your bankrupty with A.
     
    #19     Jan 28, 2016
  10. K-Pia

    K-Pia

    No you have more risk. You're more prone to be ruined with A than B.
     
    #20     Jan 28, 2016