Conservative Options Trades

Discussion in 'Journals' started by danshirley, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. I like this old nemesis thread, even if he did not answer one of my questions. I predicted that many those who looked down at it would disappear over time, and he would still be here. I found his approach original and exploit some subtleties in spreads, and implements "slow beats the hare". It looks boring, which would attract less competition from flashy guys who like to say in loud voice things such as "I made 70% in my last trade", and that sort of annoying talk. The young man in old coat has beaten them.
     
    #571     Dec 12, 2013
  2. What do you want him to do with people do not respect others? His strategy not to respond or to put people on ignore seems to have worked, and is efficient. I know he is justified, because others insult me and I do not even respond to them, but they continue ( for years.) to insult and say things they know are untrue.
     
    #572     Dec 13, 2013
  3. ZINC:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bear-day-horsehead-holding-zinc-055020015.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=ZINC&t=1y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=^GSPC

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=zinc

    Trade:
    With ZINC at 14.09

    Jun '14 15/12.5 bear put spread for a net debit of $125


    Price...............Profit / Loss........... %
    10.00................ 125.00............. 100.00%
    11.00................ 125.00............. 100.00%
    12.50................ 125.00............. 100.00%
    13.07.................. 68.20.............. 54.56%
    13.75 ....................0.00................ 0.00%
    14.96 .................(121.20).......... -96.96%
    15.00 .................(125.00)......... -100.00%
    16.86 .................(125.00)......... -100.00%
    18.75 .................(125.00)......... -100.00%
     
    #573     Dec 13, 2013
  4. XEL:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8zuGafSyjY&feature=youtu.be

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=XEL+Key+Statistics

    http://investing.money.msn.com/investments/financial-statements?symbol=xel

    http://tickerreport.com/banking-fin...-inc-declares-quarterly-dividend-of-0-28-xel/

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=XEL&t=2y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=

    Trade:

    With XEL at 27.74

    June '14 25/20 Bull put spread for a net credit of $35
    Yield = 35/465 = 7.5% in 188 days or 14.6% annualized


    Price....................Profit / Loss.............%
    15.00 ...................(465.00) .............-93.00%
    18.78 ...................(465.00) .............-93.00%
    20.00 ...................(465.00) .............-93.00%
    22.75 ...................(189.90) .............-37.98%
    24.65 ........................0.00 ................0.00%
    25.00 ....................35.00 ..................7.50%
    30.00 ....................35.00 ..................7.50%
    35.00 ....................35.00 ..................7.50%

    XEL pays a 4% dividend
     
    #574     Dec 15, 2013
  5. SLV:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kitcone...nd-for-silver-coins-in-2013/?partner=yahootix

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=SLV&t=1y&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=gld,^GSPC

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=1y&s=SLV&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&ql=1

    Trade:
    With SLV at 19.15

    Mar '14 18/20 bull call spread for a net debit of $107

    Price..........................P/L................%
    13.50 .....................(107.00) .....-100.00%
    15.50 .....................(107.00) .....-100.00%
    18.00 .....................(107.00) .....-100.00%
    19.07 ..........................0.00 .........0.00%
    20.00 .........................93.00 ........86.92%
    22.50 .........................93.00 ........86.92%
    25.00 .........................93.00 ........86.92%
     
    #575     Dec 17, 2013
  6. HPQ:

    http://blogs.barrons.com/techtrader...te-it-sluggishness/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hp-raises-ceo-whitmans-salary-232116880.html

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=HPQ+Key+Statistics

    http://www8.hp.com/h20621/video-gal...001/hp-elitebook-revolve-810-tablet-pc/video/

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=HPQ&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&ql=1&c=^GSPC

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=HPQ&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&ql=1

    Trade:
    With HPQ at 27.45
    Jan '15 17/12 bull put spread for a net credit of $45
    Yield = 45/455 = 9.9% in 395 days or 9.1% annualized
    Prob = 92%
    Expectation = .92(45) - .01(455) - .07(228) = 41.4 - 4.6 - 31.8 = 5


    Price.............Profit / Loss............. %
    9.00 ................(459.00) .........-91.80%
    12.00 ..............(459.00) .........-91.80%
    13.86 ..............(273.20) .........-54.64%
    16.59 ...................0.00 .............0.00%
    17.00 .................45.00 ..............9.9%
    19.00 .................45.00 ..............9.9%
    25.00 .................45.00 ..............9.9%
    30.00 .................45.00 ..............9.9%
    35.00 .................45.00 ..............9.9%
     
    #576     Dec 17, 2013
  7. Flashmob:

    I am back in PA for the holidays and happened on a flashmob performance while out shopping:

    http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-bethlehem-christmas-flash-mob-20131223,0,6882451.story

    It's not really a surprise since Bethlehem PA prides itself on being the Christmas City. Lots of similar if smaller scale things happen here all the time. The other afternoon I was in the check out line at K-mart and a woman was checking out toys for her brood when the man in front of me insisted on paying for her purchases with his own credit card.

    Here's a slightly more organized performance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZEtVbJT5c

    All in all the flashmob didn't do badly.

    God bless us every one......
    ............................Tiny Tim
     
    #578     Dec 24, 2013
  8. #580     Dec 26, 2013