Conservative Options trades

Discussion in 'Options' started by danshirley, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. OHI is a healthcare REIT which will go ex-dividend on Oct 29th

    http://www.dividendinvestor.com/?symbol=ohi&submit=GO

    http://ichart.finance.yahoo.com/z?s=OHI&t=2y&q=c&l=off&z=m&a=v&p=s
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=OHI
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=OHI
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=OHI


    For Nov Expiration..............P/L..................For June Expiration

    ..........15 CC........15 Short Put............15CC..........15 Short Put
    13......(161).............(165)....................(16)................(35)
    14......(61)................(65)......................90...................65
    15.......39..................35.......................184.................165
    16.......39..................35.......................184.................165
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    req:..1491...............1465....................1406................1335
    Yield:. 2.6%..............2.4%...................13%...............12.3%
    Ann:..31%................29%....................19%...............18.5%
     
    #21     Oct 22, 2009
  2. etoile

    etoile

    Nice journal you have. Just curious about why you take a longer term position like over 6 mths for the dollar, and do you intend to let the position expire?
     
    #22     Oct 22, 2009
  3. "Just curious about why you take a longer term position like over 6 mths for the dollar, and do you intend to let the position expire"

    The june expiration had the largest annualized return at the time I put on the spread. Annualized returns today for the same spread are:
    Nov:.....0%
    Dec:....15%
    Mar:....42%
    Jun:....49%

    In addition the longer time frame allows time for the effect I am looking for to take place. All too often, when playing such things with options, you are right but your options expire before the market agrees with you.

    I do expect to allow this to expire.
     
    #23     Oct 22, 2009
  4. etoile

    etoile

    Thanks for the reply, happy trading.
     
    #24     Oct 24, 2009
  5. Here's another looonng term trade:
    PBCT is a very stable bank founded in 1842:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=PBCT

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=PBCT&l=off&z=m&q=c&c=PNC&c=^DJI

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=PBCT

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=PBCT

    http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idCNBNG38390020091015?rpc=44

    They will go exdividend on Oct 28th.

    trade:
    Buy PBCT at 16.61 and sell the May 17.50 call for .70 . Dividends will total an additional .45 for a net of 1.15.
    Yield = 115/ 1591 = 7.25% in 209 DAYS or 12.6% annualized.

    The 17.50 short put will yield 106/1555 = 6.8% or 11.8% annualized.

    A higher yielding trade:
    Sell the may 15 put and buy the may 12.50 put for a net of .40
    Yield = 40/210 = 19% in 209 days or 33% annualized.
     
    #25     Oct 25, 2009
  6. GILD is a very powerful and innovative pharm company
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=GILD
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GILD
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bs?s=GILD

    Which is having a minor pullback that at least some analysts deem unwarranted:

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Gilead-shares-fall-despite-apf-671539328.html?x=0&.v=1

    GILD shares have been very steady in the past 2 years with strong support at 40:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GILD&t=2y&l=off&z=m&q=c&c=

    We will take a short term position for short term gain:
    TRADE:
    Sell the Dec 40 put and buy the Dec 35 put for a net of $50.00.
    Yield = 50/450 = 11% in 53 days or 75% annualized.

    This position will expire before next quarterly reports.
     
    #26     Oct 27, 2009
  7. GILD: A longer term trade
    http://video.forbes.com/fvn/intelligent-technology/gilead-living-vs-dying

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GILD&t=2y&l=off&z=m&q=c&c=

    Trade: With GILD at 43.12 sell the May 2010 45 call and cover with the June SSF
    ..............P/L........%Gain........Ann%
    35........(502).......(62%).......(108%)
    40...........0.............0.............0
    43.12.....310.........39%.........67%
    45..........500.........62%........108%
    50..........500.........62%........108%
    ------------------------------------------------------
    req: 800
    days: 207
     
    #27     Oct 28, 2009
  8. #28     Oct 28, 2009
  9. GIS, a member of our recession proof list, is a very stable stock which has largely resisted the turmoil of the past two years:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=GIS&t=2y&l=off&z=m&q=c&c=^DJI
    The stability of the stock reflects the company's stable earnings :
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=GIS
    At it's last earnings report it raised its 2010 projections:
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/General-Mills-1Q-Results-at-a-apf-3568260771.html?x=0&.v=2

    Yesterday Cramer recommended GIS as a "safety stock" for diversification:

    http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/sto...ate-1.html?cm_ven=YAHOO&cm_cat=FREE&cm_ite=NA

    "People don't cut back on food," he said, "not even when they're dieting!"
    :)
    GIS has a beta of just .3

    trade: I think GIS's stability justifies an Iron Condor
    http://www.theoptionsguide.com/iron-condor.aspx
    sell the Jan 2011 45 put and 80 call and hedge with the 50 put and 85 call for a net of $45.
    Yield = 45/455= 9.9% in 450 days or 7.9% annualized.
     
    #29     Oct 30, 2009
  10. MTE

    MTE

    What's the point of selling an iron condor with 450 days to expiration!? Time decay is virtually zero for the next 400 days.

    Mind explaining your logic behind this trade?
     
    #30     Oct 30, 2009