Conservative Mind Set & Conspiracy Theories

Discussion in 'Politics' started by piezoe, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. jem

    jem

    so you are spinning the argument that the Jews killed Jesus and Pilate and Rome had nothing to do with it?

    Read the passion... understand why Rome had INRI inscribed... in 3 languages.

    here is a start from wikipedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus,_King_of_the_Jews

    In the accounts of the Passion of Jesus, the title King of the Jews is used on three separate occasions. In the first such episode, all four Gospels state that the title was used for Jesus when he was interviewed by Pilate and that his Crucifixion was based on that charge, as in Matthew 27:11, Mark 15:2, Luke 23:3 and John 18:33.[7]


     
    #611     Feb 10, 2014
  2. jem

    jem

    fascists socialists kings.. it poweful central govt which is the problem throughout history

     
    #612     Feb 10, 2014
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    From your link.

    The continued reliance on the use of the term King by the Jews to press charges against Jesus is a key element of the final decision to crucify him.[3] In John 19:12 Pilate seeks to release Jesus, but the Jews object, saying: "If thou release this man, thou art not Caesar's friend: every one that maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar" bringing the power of Caesar to the forefront of the discussion.[3] In John 19:12 the Jews then cry out: "Crucify him! ... We have no king but Caesar."
     
    #613     Feb 10, 2014
  4. stu

    stu

    In a reality based world, if someone is making an imaginary person into an historical figure, when the standard for their historicity has nowhere near been reached, it wouldn't make it hard for them to think he was anything they wanted. Right?
     
    #614     Feb 11, 2014
  5. stu

    stu

    Dear me. It doesn't make any difference.

    I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of those who imagine Jesus was real and then name call as liberals, socialists and leftists those who don't fit with their own politics.
    Hypocrisy because the Jesus they think real, is clearly portrayed as a liberal socialist and leftist.

    Really what is it about that which you can't get your lack of intellect around.

    The Bible Jesus is a fictional bleeding heart radical wealth re-distributing socialist liberal. Everything right wingers hate and detest while at the same time rather brainlessly and hypocritically they worship him.
     
    #615     Feb 11, 2014
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    That would make some sense. IF Jesus was a big government socialist to begin with. Only he wasn't.
     
    #616     Feb 11, 2014
  7. jem

    jem

    exactly...



     
    #617     Feb 11, 2014
  8. jem

    jem

    The right wing believes in opportunity and in charity and good works by individuals. We see the left politicians as selfish bastards trade the debt of our children for votes today. They steal the work and labor of hard working people through devaluation of the dollar and economy crushing taxes.

    If the left were really about helping and not about their own power govt would not be cementing in a lower class. Govt would not be taxing the hell out of tax payers and devaluing their dollars. We would have all sorts of programs in place which would phase out benefits as people return to work.

    The right believe in opportunity through a growing economy. The USA lifted so many out of poverty. Its the USSR vs USA... what was better for people?
     
    #618     Feb 11, 2014
  9. US government elites care only about "what's good for us" (the controlling elites)... just as did the Communist Party elites in the USSR.

    :mad:
     
    #619     Feb 11, 2014
  10. stu

    stu

    Government at the supposed time of Jesus could hardly have been much bigger. The quote "Render unto Caesar...." makes just about as firm an acquiescence to big government as it gets. It allows for nothing more than submission to big tax or whatever. The whole emphasis is anti wealth.

    It clearly puts Bible Jesus well and truly on the left wing.

    A right winger's definition of a 'selfish bastard' if ever there was one.
     
    #620     Feb 11, 2014