Conjecture On The U.S. - Israel Rift

Discussion in 'Politics' started by pspr, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. Well, you are calling Tsing Tao a cynic...IMO, the problem we have in this country is that people are not cynical ENOUGH. After all, each election cycle the voters line up and think something will change the next time around.

    Then again, you are also the same guy who continually cheerleads the obviously flawed labor statistics and then goes back into "riddle mode" whenever anybody challenges the integrity of the statistics.

    And yes there is a difference between cynics and pessimists. I'd argue that there are plenty of people who are cynical towards all things political, but are not pessimistic in other aspects of their personal lives.
     
    #21     Jan 16, 2012
  2. The adage 'a cynic knows the price of everything, and the value of nothing' - applies in some cases. Also, 'trust but verify,' which I prefer, applies in virtually every case.

    Pessimism is more of a concern, imo, than being a bit cynical at times. It's the preconceived ideas that bother me. That, because of the 'who' or the 'what' or even the 'messenger' that groups of people simply take the opposite side.

    I know I'm dreaming again, but would love to get back to the Eisenhower era, where, at least my childhood memories and education recall, we were able to all be Americans first.

    Oh well, nice to be positive, at least in our dreams, right?


    c
     
    #22     Jan 16, 2012
  3. pspr

    pspr

    I remember those days. Right after WWII the country trusted the government and all was right in the world (at least my world). Until Ike put in the interstate highways the scarriest thing was taking a long trip on those two lane highways. Well, that and the cold war.

    The bad:
    Long distance phone calls cost a small fortune
    Flying was extremely expensive
    Only the grocery store had air conditioning
    Cars broke down more and had no air conditioning either

    Hmmm. Maybe the "good ol' days" weren't as good as I remember.
     
    #23     Jan 16, 2012
  4. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    When I was a kid I fell out of a moving pickup truck that had no seat belts.
    They weren't required at the time of its manufacture.

    (and no I didn't land on my head)
     
    #24     Jan 16, 2012
  5. pspr

    pspr

    Might be where you got a taste for flying, though. :D
     
    #25     Jan 16, 2012
  6. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    :D :D

    There's that possibility, although I'll admit my landing on that "flight" was rather harsh.
     
    #26     Jan 16, 2012
  7. sorry, I had to chuckle a bit...just because it's such a startling dichotomy to all the laws about kids being in properly fitted booster seats nowadays, etc, etc...
     
    #27     Jan 16, 2012
  8. hey lucrum,

    I watched an episode of American Greed on CNBS last night (the only worthwhile program on that channel.). They featured some con named Marcus Schenker who conned a group of airline pilots in Atlanta out of some money. The pilots did get it all back though when the company this guy was working for feared all the bad publiciity.

    I'm sure you've heard the whole story..the con stole a plane from Indiana and crashed it into a swamp in Alabama while parachuting out of it, lol...he was a small time operator in the grand scheme of things.
     
    #28     Jan 16, 2012
  9. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Laugh all you want. I don't remember my exact age but I'm guessing between 9 and 11 YO.
     
    #29     Jan 16, 2012
  10. Lucrum

    Lucrum

    Actually I hadn't heard that story. But then I don't fly for the airlines and rarely watch the local news.
     
    #30     Jan 16, 2012