Congrats, Dr. Trump from Trump University has found Corona cure

Discussion in 'Politics' started by exGOPer, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Is there a salient part that I missed? Do tell.

    You think the CDC will ever catch up to Trump's medical brilliance?
     
    #61     Apr 7, 2020
  2. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    Did you read the part that using Hydroxychoroquine, which saved her life, was illegal in her state because governor is a TDS sufferer?
     
    #62     Apr 7, 2020
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  3. I thought you were referring to my God link.

    As for the Hydroxychoroquine, not all that shines is necessarily gold for everyone:

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html
     
    #63     Apr 7, 2020
  4. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    Whatever. It must be tough to be a liberal in the age of Trump. The more you guys attack him, the better he does in the polls....please don't stop...
     
    #64     Apr 7, 2020
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  5. Trump again promotes use of hydroxychloroquine.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/05/world/coronavirus-live-news-updates.html


    At a White House coronavirus briefing Sunday, President Trump continued to push hydroxychloroquine against the advice of doctors and health experts who say its efficacy against the coronavirus is unproven and warn of dangerous side effects.

    Mr. Trump suggested he was speaking on gut instinct, and acknowledged he had no expertise on the subject.


    “But what do I know? I’m not a doctor,” Mr. Trump said, after recommending the anti-malaria drug’s use for coronavirus patients as well as medical personnel at high risk of infection.

    Saying that the drug is “being tested now,” Mr. Trump said “there are some very strong, powerful signs” of its potential, although health experts say the data is limited and that more study of the drug’s effectiveness against the coronavirus is needed.

    “If it does work, it would be a shame we did not do it early,” Mr. Trump said, noting again that the federal government has purchased and stockpiled 29 million doses of the drug. Mr. Trump added, “We are sending them to various labs, our military, we’re sending them to the hospitals.”

    “What do you have to lose?” Mr. Trump asked, for the second day in a row.

    When a reporter asked Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, to weigh in on the question of using hydroxychloroquine, Mr. Trump stopped him from answering. As the reporter noted that Dr. Fauci was the president’s medical expert, Mr. Trump made it clear he did not want the doctor to answer.

    “He’s answered the question 15 times,” the president said, stepping toward the lectern where Mr. Fauci was standing.


    On Saturday, Dr. Fauci had privately challenged rising optimism about the drug’s efficacy during a meeting of the coronavirus task force in the White House’s Situation Room, according to two people familiar with the events. The argument wasfirst reportedby the website Axios.

    Peter Navarro, the president’s trade adviser who is overseeing supply chain issues related to the coronavirus, plopped a sheaf of folders on the table and said he had seen several studies from various countries, as well as information culled from C.D.C. officials, showing the “clear” efficacy of chloroquines in treating the coronavirus.

    Dr. Fauci pushed back, echoing remarks he has made in a series of interviews in the last week that rigorous study is still necessary. Mr. Navarro, an economist by training, shot back that the information he had collected was “science,” according to the people familiar with what took place.

    Dr. Megan L. Ranney, an emergency physician at Brown University in Rhode Island and editor for the journal Annals of Emergency Medicine, said in an interview on Sunday night that she had never seen an elected official advertise a miracle cure the way Mr. Trump has done.

    “There are side effects to hydroxychloroquine,” Dr. Ranney said. “It causes psychiatric symptoms, cardiac problems and a host of other bad side effects.”

    Dr. Ranney said hydroxychloroquine could be effective for some patients, but there wasn’t nearly enough scientific evidence to support Mr. Trump’s claims.

    “There may be a role for it for some people,” she said, “but to tell Americans ‘you don’t have anything to lose,’ that’s not true. People certainly have something to lose by taking it indiscriminately.”


    Dr. Kenneth B. Klein, a consultant who works for drug companies to design and evaluate their clinical trials, said patients with heart troubles and other underlying conditions are more likely to be severely affected by the coronavirus, so they might also be at higher risk of dangerous side effects from hydroxychloroquine.

    “What have we got to lose?” Dr. Klein said, echoing similar remarks Mr. Trump has made in support of the drug. “We’ve got patients to lose from dangerous side effects.”

    Other researchers have noted that while future trials may show a benefit, hydroxychloroquine has disappointed in the past, even though it has been tested as a treatment for other viruses, including influenza.

    “Hydroxychloroquine has been studied as a possible antiviral therapy for many decades,” said Dr. Luciana Borio, who oversaw public health preparedness for the National Security Council in Mr. Trump’s White House and was previously the acting chief scientist at the Food and Drug Administration under President Barack Obama. “Despite showing evidence of activity against several viruses in the laboratory, it never showed success in randomized clinical trials.”

    Mr. Trump defended his constant promotion of the drug, which is also often prescribed for patients with lupus.

    “We don’t have time to go and say, ‘Gee, let’s take a couple of years to test it out,’ and test with the test tubes and the laboratories,” Mr. Trump said. “I’d love to be able to do that, but we have people dying today.”

    “I’m not acting as a doctor. I’m saying, do what you want,” he added.

    Two weeks ago, the American Medical Associationdiscouraged the off-label use of hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine and azithromycin to treat Covid-19and the stockpiling of those medications. Mr. Trump has promoted all three medications.


    “We caution hospitals, health systems and individual practitioners that no medication has been F.D.A.-approved for use in Covid-19 patients, and there is no incontrovertible evidence to support off-label use of medications for Covid-19,” the A.M.A. said in a joint statement with the American Pharmacists Association and the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists.

    Last month, anArizona man died and his wife was hospitalizedafter officials said they treated themselves with a deadly home remedy for the coronavirus — a popular fish tank additive that has the same active ingredient as an anti-malaria drug.

    The woman who self-treatedtold NBC Newsthat she had heard Mr. Trump make repeated mentions of chloroquine during recent White House briefings on the coronavirus and that she used chloroquine phosphate to treat her koi fish. The drug, known aschloroquine phosphateor chloroquine, has also been bandied about by Mr. Trump during White House briefings on the coronavirus pandemic as a potential“game changer.”

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    Stated differently, Trump should STFU when adults are speaking.
     
    #65     Apr 7, 2020
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  6. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    She killed her husband and was a TDS sufferer...
     
    #66     Apr 7, 2020
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  7. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Amusing, one of the times they think we are being unreasonable simply because we know the human weakness Trump is exploiting in his latest whammy. And discussing this is problematic for them. This will have come from the Christian faith healers, the old tell people you have just healed them over the TV and a statistical few will believe you have powers from God. Come to the flock and scream your name.

    Clever, a somewhat viable drug people were using anyway made in the hydroxychloroquine form by largely only one manufacturer.

    As I said back on the 20th buy Sanofi.

    I did. Trump's gang did.

    https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/what-to-buy-in-this-market.341947/#post-5042976
     
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    #67     Apr 7, 2020
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  8. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Oh and.. They know that the actual will undershoot earlier projections when extreme measures are applied.

    We will see a lot of they said.. But..
     
    #68     Apr 7, 2020
  9. Pfft. Your boy will do time rather than another term. Various DAs across the country are waiting in the wings for him to no longer be a s(h)itting president.
     
    #69     Apr 7, 2020
  10. Dr. Love

    Dr. Love

    It's all good. It has been clinically proven that TDS sufferers also exhibit symptoms of delusion. You are ok bro.
     
    #70     Apr 7, 2020
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