Confused about SPY 0dte cut off time for assignment

Discussion in 'Trading' started by curiosity, Oct 3, 2024.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Why would Robinhood assign you shares before the official cut off?
    While retailers can't easily exercise late into the evening, broker dealers can.
     
    #11     Oct 3, 2024
  2. S2007S

    S2007S


    I thought when I first traded options that the date the option contract expired was the date that the assignment was made considering what the strike was and where the equity price ended at close of the ending expiration date, however numerous times, like tonight I was assigned shares before the expiration... I have a trade that expires tomorrow October 4th, tonight I found out I was assigned 1 out of those 2 contracts.

    I called them and they said that in the American option markets you can be assigned at anytime where as the European options markets your contract assignment, if there is one, happens on the day of expiration ...

    So yea you can be assigned at any time.....im sure there are others here who have traded options have had this happen to them as well. This is something they don't tell you until you find out on your own....
     
    #12     Oct 4, 2024
  3. S2007S

    S2007S



    That's why the calls I have sold against some stocks I tend to roll outward....there have been 2 equities trade where I sold calls, the stock jumped and because I didn't want my shares called away I have been rolling them out for addition premium credit every 2 to 3 weeks. Right now i have collected some decent credits....Sometimes I'll roll out and up once I can catch a bit of premium so if I am called away before the contract expires I can make a few extra dollars in premium and on stock price advancement...
     
    #13     Oct 4, 2024
  4. taowave

    taowave

    When does the stock go Ex Dividend??

    Do you understand why one would exercise an option early as it relates to dividends??

     
    #14     Oct 4, 2024
  5. S2007S

    S2007S



    I do not think these early assignments had anything to do with dividends
     
    #15     Oct 4, 2024
  6. FSU

    FSU

    No they cant. The exercise cutoff time of 530pm applies to everyone.

    The OCC did have some exceptions for extreme circumstances, such as mistakes from a broker, but it was not easy to do and brokers needed to jump through a lot of hoops. Was not meant to give broker dealers an advantage. Even these have been tightened up after stock settlement change took place a while ago.
     
    #16     Oct 4, 2024
  7. taowave

    taowave

    Are you 100% sure about that?

    I asked my broker the very same question,and they did say there are cases where exercise can take place up till 8


     
    #17     Oct 4, 2024
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    https://www.sec.gov/files/rules/sro/ise/2010/34-61458-ex5.pdf

    Customers have until 5:30.
    Member firms have 1-2 hours to submit the customers' requests.

    I haven't done it since I was at the bank (a while ago). My guess is that at that time we could get into that 730 time frame.
     
    #18     Oct 4, 2024