You always hear, no matter whether its in a book, seminar, or in a forum such as this one, "get confirmation". The more confirmation the better. I mean, it sounds logical, right? If all roads lead to Rome, get on any one of them, and you're going to be in Rome. The problem that I have is that I've been trading for years, and that just hasn't worked for me. Now when I see an obvious situation to get long, like for instance the MACD signals a buy at the same time the ma's signal, the rsi is below 20 and its breaking out of a perfect reverse head and shoulders neckline, I want to get short. That's right, short. My contrarian impulses tell me that if a bunch of technical indicators, which are based on past history and not present supply and demand (like for instance, an actual block of orders supporting a price level) I don't want to be in with the crowd of technicians that the mm's are about to rape. If its obvious, its obviously wrong. The market's not that cheap. But I do agree that confirmation with actual real time supply and demand factors is important(and reading the specialist), however this is not stressed by most books and seminars. But I would like to hear your opinion. By the way, does anyone know what happened to Cormac, a sage and frequent contributer to this forum. I'm sure he could shed some light on this. Cormac, come down from the mountain. At least send me an e-mail.