Communists and Teabaggers

Discussion in 'Politics' started by omegapoint, May 3, 2010.

  1. The commonality I asked for between teabaggers and the May Day celebrants of course had economics as at least an ingredient.
    To see a parallel between the sources of their similar grievences you'd have to make the observation with a wider lens than the one you're looking through.
     
    #21     May 4, 2010
  2. loik

    loik

    No, I didn`say they are the same, i.e. laissez-faire capitalists do not want a violent revolution, i.e. there are differences between communists/laissez-faire capitalists. Fascists on the other hand want a more/less perpetual centrally planned authoritarian/totalitarian collectivist society, communists only want it(closer to sosialists/facists) until they can achieve a class-/stateless society(closer to laissez-faire).

    How can you state that laissez-faire is authoritarian, is it authoritarian to be anti-authoritarian, anti-coercion etc?

    Politics is what? Poltics = regulation of society/redistribution of goods! Peoples lifes = creating value(goods/services) i some way or the other, politics controls/regulates this perpetual creation of value, ergo politics = economy, i.e. politics/economy are in no way separate.
     
    #22     May 5, 2010
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    You got the widest possible lens with my first reply to you. So wide in fact that it likely holds little predictive value.
     
    #23     May 5, 2010
  4. Ricter

    Ricter

    Why would they? It's capital at the top now, and the wealthiest capitalists, those that feel the least restraint, are presently acting pretty much as they wish. If they were to back violent action it would be of the "put down" variety, which history and even current events give many examples.

    But if we buried all human desire for achievement in a mass of collectivism, it's quite plausible to imagine a violent revolution by their type to cast off that excessive social control.
     
    #24     May 5, 2010
  5. Ricter

    Ricter

    It means essentially, in terms of the market, "leave it be". If evolving conditions, perhaps social, economic, or environmental, indicated some intervention would be in order, and that intervention was blocked by power, then you have your authoritarianism.
     
    #25     May 5, 2010
  6. You seem to have a foot in both courts.
     
    #26     May 5, 2010
  7. loik

    loik

    Laissez-faire capitalists don`t rule the world, the fascists/socialists etc do.

    Yes, the people with power are using violence/coercion/extortion etc on a daily basis.

    So you`re saying that the people you call laissez-faire, who run he world, and of course are not laissez-faire, but fascists/socialists, would use violence if they were living in the society they control?
     
    #27     May 5, 2010
  8. loik

    loik

    What, why should some people intervene, in what way?
     
    #28     May 5, 2010