Comments appreciated beyond saying I must be a socialist imbecille just for posting.

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Swan Noir, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. jem

    jem

    So how does this happen.
    The larger the govt gets... the more the elite class gathers up the wealth.

    Historically looking at the Socialist societies in the real world... you see more of the wealth gathered in the elites hands as they control the govt and the party. everyone else suffers a very low standard of living... and terribly low freedom.

    As socialist societies have decentralized the power and the ownership of assets... the wealth has spread out.

    So what do we need to do.
    We need to become anti big govt and anti taxation.
    We can't have the govt picking the winners and making their cronies rich. Solydra is the problem with socialism.


    1. So we need to get to zero percent personal income tax rate on everyone... or at least the 99%. So the middle class can accumulate assets and compete with the cronies.

    2. We no longer allow any campaign bribery or lobbying.

    3. If you are going to insist on some personal income tax... on the 1%

    how about a flat rate with no deductions.

    Socialists and Marxist societies have historically been the haves and have not to the extreme.

    As they begin to decentralize power and govt programs the wealth begins to spread out.
     
  2. The poor and middle class got what they deserve!

    Even if you gave them a million dollars each they would just go out and blow it!

    They really need to bring back slavery so that those poor suckers can have a purpose!
     
  3. jem

    jem

    there it is..

    Satans Helper is a really big socialist / marxist.




     
  4. blakpacman

    blakpacman

    There are many ways to lie with statistics. I'm assuming those statistics are based on net worth. However, most of the "wealth" of poor, low income, and government workers derive from government transfer payments through social security, medicare, and pensions. I bet the present value of these transfer payments are not reflected in any liberal-leaning wealth figures. Many government workers are millionaires based on the present value of their pensions.
     
  5. Socialist? Hell No!

    I don't think the gap between the poor and rich is big enough. Slavery should be brought back to put you know who working the modern versions of the cotton fields. For example, if you can't make it in the real world then you can sign away the next 30 years working for my company and I will provide everything you need. But the catch is I own your ass and I am free to do what ever I want. That includes selling you honky ass or using you for my own personal needs such as I might need your liver. At the end of your 30 years I give you a lump sum for retirement to blow and after that you are free. That is how things need to be!

    The poor have become so dumb that they need to be owned by those who are privileges and have proven to be needed in polite society.



     
  6. jem

    jem

    slavery is the ultimate goal of the cronies who run socialist and then marxist governments.

    debt slavery, work for small pay slavery, house poor slavery, tax slavery. Lack of rights slavery.

    Its all repackaged slavery.

    If someone gives you their working years in return for food shelter and medicine its all just different degrees of slavery.


     
  7. jem

    jem

    that is a very good point.

    I know my peers from school who went into govt jobs have already locked away pensions that are the equivalent of over 3 million dollars at todays rates.

    Their risk is if CA or San Diego go bankrupt.
     
  8. Well said. Pensions and healthcare are the biggest problems facing the country today. And the number one reason why public sector unions need to be abolished.

    There is no conceivable reason why someone with no special skills can work for the government for 25 years, retire in their 50's, and receive millions in pension guarantees and benefits over the next few decades of their lives.

    It's illogical to think this payout system can continue.
     
  9. cmb

    cmb Guest

    %20 to 25% investment tax would be the ideal way.

    All of the corporation have to invest their money in some sort of business that creates jobs middle class jobs here in the US.

    I know there are alot of die hard right wingers here on this board, but they are so full of hate towards the lower class and like to try and identify with the top 1%. the thing that these right wingers dont understand is that if more of the wealth got spread out, the lower and middle class would spend that extra disposable income in the economy.

    instead of this 85 billion a month POMO, if they mailed everyone a check for 300 bucks a month, the REAL economy would be in better shape.

    but lets be honest, the game is not to get the economy better, its just to get this country one more step closer to a country like mexico, which is controlled by about 80 families in mexico city
     
    #10     Sep 24, 2013