Combo orders

Discussion in 'Order Execution' started by akivak, Feb 12, 2013.

  1. akivak

    akivak

    The response that one of my friends got from IB rep after opening a ticket:

    "Smart routed combos may be held internally and not routed to an exchange. This may occur because either:
    -the order is not marketable
    -the order is not accepted natively on an exchange and is therefore being held by IB and attempts will be made to simultaneously send orders for each of the legs to obtain the combo (spread) execution."

    Today I placed an order for one of the straddles when the bid/ask was 7.30/7.50. My order was 7.40 and I saw it immediately at IB platform, but on TOS platform, the bid/ask remained 7.30/7.50.

    I don't know why we are getting contradictory responses from IB.
     
    #11     Feb 12, 2013
  2. 1245

    1245

    None of these platforms show the COB at the exchanges, only the NBBO from the legs. iB also seems to add in orders in their system. TD I believe first routes the order to an option dark pool like knight then a fraction of a second later to the COB where they get the most PFOF, unless you are able to direct your orders, which some TD. Clients can.
     
    #12     Feb 12, 2013
  3. how to get ib to implement combo order using price division?
     
    #13     Feb 14, 2013
  4. 1245

    1245

    Can you define "price division."
     
    #14     Feb 14, 2013
  5. A ask price / B ask price
     
    #15     Feb 14, 2013
  6. What does COB stand for?
     
    #16     Mar 13, 2013
  7. #17     Mar 13, 2013
  8. Yes, I have lately also noticed a change in spreads not seen on other brokers who are placed on the book at IB.

    I also note that when I execute for example 50 or 80 contracts on the 6E and I look at a direct feed from the CME, my 80 order who got filled isn't displayed on the public time and sales. Meaning probably IB just filled it and held it or distributed internally to their customers.

    I guess that's what they call 'smart'
     
    #18     Mar 13, 2013
  9. I thought that internalization is not permitted for futures and that all trades must be executed on the futures exchange?
     
    #20     Mar 13, 2013