combo order matching directly on options exchanges?

Discussion in 'Options' started by trader42, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Bry

    Bry

    #11     Nov 25, 2012
  2. ktm

    ktm

    I've had legs of combos get executed on the CME and never see the print at all. I may be the only one that dealt that contract that day - and I definitely bought it and own it - and the volume on the daily bulletin for that day was ZERO.

    Dark pool? I have no idea.
     
    #12     Nov 26, 2012
  3. #13     Nov 29, 2012
  4. Here is the NYSE definition of "crossing orders":

    http://rules.nyse.com/NYSE/Help/Map/rules-sys81.html

    Both ISE and CBOE have fees for crossing orders:

    http://www.ise.com/assets/documents/OptionsExchange/legal/fee/fee_schedule.pdf
    http://www.c2exchange.com/publish/feeschedule/cboefeeschedule.pdf

    so one might conclude that "crossed trades" are making into these exchanges ... Although it is unclear how they would show up on the tape.
     
    #14     Nov 29, 2012
  5. FSU

    FSU

    It would be eligible to go into the COBB, whether it goes there or not is up to your broker. Each broker has different criteria for sending an order to the COBB or letting their floor broker hold the trade.
     
    #15     Nov 29, 2012
  6. FSU, is there some way to understand if an order made it out into the "public"? Floor broker or COB?
     
    #16     Nov 30, 2012
  7. FSU

    FSU


    The CBOE displays the COBB on its web site, http://www.cboe.com/cob/cob.aspx

    If you are sending an order into one of their proprietary products (such as the SPX, OEX, VIX) it will be easy to tell if it made it to the COBB as you will actually see it. I know each broker is different on how the route these orders. For example they may send 10 lots orders or smaller to the COBB in the SPX and larger orders to their floor brokers in these pits.

    For standard equity spread orders it will be harder to tell as different exchanges have their own COBB's and there generally not floor brokers in these pits (and there might not even be a pit on some exchanges). You may not know where the order was routed to or be able to see the COBB as a customer. Some brokers may even hold an order until they think it is marketable.
     
    #17     Nov 30, 2012